Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Post by freebrickproductions » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:12 am

Username1 wrote:There’s a really good video of one of the crossings on the Ararat-Maryborough line at the very bottom of this article:
http://www.araratadvertiser.com.au/stor ... e/#slide=4
Weird. Those gate lights are LED, yet look like WCH incandescents? Though it's possible they're NEG LEDs.

EDIT: Looking at WCH's website, it turns out that they do make LED gate lights in that design, though their normal LED gate light is strangely nowhere to be found. Weird.
http://www.wch.com/pdf/catalog/gatelights.pdf

EDIT 2: Found the "normal" style of LED gate light, though it's not in their online catalog, but under their product info:
http://www.wch.com/led.htm
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Post by Username1 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:36 am

freebrickproductions wrote:
Username1 wrote:There’s a really good video of one of the crossings on the Ararat-Maryborough line at the very bottom of this article:
http://www.araratadvertiser.com.au/stor ... e/#slide=4
Weird. Those gate lights are LED, yet look like WCH incandescents? Though it's possible they're NEG LEDs.

EDIT: Looking at WCH's website, it turns out that they do make LED gate lights in that design, though their normal LED gate light is strangely nowhere to be found. Weird.
http://www.wch.com/pdf/catalog/gatelights.pdf

EDIT 2: Found the "normal" style of LED gate light, though it's not in their online catalog, but under their product info:
http://www.wch.com/led.htm
Maybe they’ve now ‘updated’ the design of the gate lights and are now selling those instead. It’d be pretty cool if the first installation of the ‘newer’ LED gate light design was here in Victoria.
Metro, why are you so bad at maintaining your railway crossings??
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Post by TrickyMario7654 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:21 am

Found yet another gateless crossing on the North East line which had strobe lights, Boorhaman Road on the outskirts of Wangaratta.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-36.325 ... 312!8i6656

Here's a close up of the strobe unit, looks like they retrofitted them onto the signal and it required the mast to be extended. Notice the galvanized extension post added to the top, requiring the reloaction of the bell?
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-36.325 ... 312!8i6656

Here's the crossing today...
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-36.326 ... 312!8i6656
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Post by freebrickproductions » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:50 am

TrickyMario7654 wrote:Found yet another gateless crossing on the North East line which had strobe lights, Boorhaman Road on the outskirts of Wangaratta.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-36.325 ... 312!8i6656

Here's a close up of the strobe unit, looks like they retrofitted them onto the signal and it required the mast to be extended. Notice the galvanized extension post added to the top, requiring the reloaction of the bell?
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-36.325 ... 312!8i6656

Here's the crossing today...
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-36.326 ... 312!8i6656
Looks like it may still have them!
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-36.326 ... 312!8i6656
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Post by Username1 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:33 am

Someone was once again hit by a train at Armstrongs road, Seaford. :Awww:
I spoke to one of the residents that lived in a nearby house and he said that someone is hit there at least once a month. He also said that his daughter has lost 4 friends by suicide to that crossing.

So today, all of Seaford through to Mordialloc was cut in half today with the traffic backed up for kilometres... (The shops and the beach is on the opposite side of the tracks to most houses). Most of the crossings were kept down because of trains that had to stop where they were.
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Post by TrickyMario7654 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:09 am

McK&H.Aust wrote:
trainman7 wrote:
McK&H.Aust wrote: I remember the crossing at Five Islands Road, Unanderra. It was gateless with a teardrop bell and was closed around 1985 when the section of track was duplicated. Another crossing at Unanderra was the Princes Hwy on the Moss Vale branch line. I travelled over this crossing plenty of times, both by car and train. It was gateless and had two bells, both of which were (unusually) on the median signals. The bell on the southern side was a teardrop but I'm not sure what the northern bell was, I do remember thinking that it rang very fast so it could have been WRRS/WCH or even Safetran. I think the crossing survived a little longer until 1986/87, but you can see where the old track alignment was beside the overpass https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.460 ... 312!8i6656
Wow had no idea there was even a crossing there wish there where photos. Surprising they removed that one and not other crossing as well. Could it be possible that it was removed as part of the maldon to dombarton rail project.
Well actually I did take a couple of grainy photos of Princes Hwy in May 1986 while the overpass was being constructed. I don't have a scanner and these are photos of photos, so please forgive the poor quality. And yes the crossing was removed as part of the Maldon to Dombarton project, one of the parts that they actually finished!

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dh6dz ... 9yi6KCwRem
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kjf2U ... hQg1_hu5t5
Sorry for quoting an old post, but I've found a video of this crossing in operation (at 22:31).


I think that bell was WRRS.
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Post by freebrickproductions » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:46 am

Sounded like WCH to me.
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Post by McK&H.Aust » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:34 am

TrickyMario7654 wrote: Sorry for quoting an old post, but I've found a video of this crossing in operation (at 22:31).


I think that bell was WRRS.
It's a small world, I was just watching that video earlier today :cool:

Another interesting thing shown in the video is the temporary construction crossings at Dombarton for access to the site of the Avon Tunnel which was started but then abandoned when construction of the Maldon - Dombarton line was cancelled by the Greiner governement in 1988. There were three gateless crossings within a distance of a few hundred metres, each with a Westinghouse hybrid bell. They were known as Avon #1, #2 and #3 crossings. The signals were installed at least as early as 1986 and sat idle for a couple of years before they were brought into use on February 27, 1988, they only lasted until July 22 (almost 6 months) before they were again taken out of service when the project was cancelled. The lights and SORS signs were removed and the crossings became passive, the masts remaining in place complete with crossbucks and hybrid bells. They still remain to this day some 30 years later, although public access has since been closed off.

The first crossing (Avon #1) can be seen at 3:01 in the video and #2 can be seen at 3:14, although only one of it's signals had been installed at the time. Crossing #3 had not yet been installed, but was located at around 3:30. The crossings can be seen again beginning at 21:55 when the site of #3 crossing can be seen where the man is standing.

I did manage to visit #1 crossing on June 29, 1986 and took this photo. It's a picture of a picture so the quality isn't good.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1DOOOs ... JZszn1_NR5

This is the satellite view of the site today, it is now quite overgrown. https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.449 ... a=!3m1!1e3
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Post by TrickyMario7654 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:14 am

McK&H.Aust wrote:
TrickyMario7654 wrote: Sorry for quoting an old post, but I've found a video of this crossing in operation (at 22:31).


I think that bell was WRRS.
It's a small world, I was just watching that video earlier today :cool:

Another interesting thing shown in the video is the temporary construction crossings at Dombarton for access to the site of the Avon Tunnel which was started but then abandoned when construction of the Maldon - Dombarton line was cancelled by the Greiner governement in 1988. There were three gateless crossings within a distance of a few hundred metres, each with a Westinghouse hybrid bell. They were known as Avon #1, #2 and #3 crossings. The signals were installed at least as early as 1986 and sat idle for a couple of years before they were brought into use on February 27, 1988, they only lasted until July 22 (almost 6 months) before they were again taken out of service when the project was cancelled. The lights and SORS signs were removed and the crossings became passive, the masts remaining in place complete with crossbucks and hybrid bells. They still remain to this day some 30 years later, although public access has since been closed off.

The first crossing (Avon #1) can be seen at 3:01 in the video and #2 can be seen at 3:14, although only one of it's signals had been installed at the time. Crossing #3 had not yet been installed, but was located at around 3:30. The crossings can be seen again beginning at 21:55 when the site of #3 crossing can be seen where the man is standing.

I did manage to visit #1 crossing on June 29, 1986 and took this photo. It's a picture of a picture so the quality isn't good.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1DOOOs ... JZszn1_NR5

This is the satellite view of the site today, it is now quite overgrown. https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.449 ... a=!3m1!1e3
I actually the video by looking through your 'liked videos'...

I don't understand why they would put in temporary crossings that are signalized, wouldn't have been smarter just to make them passive to begin with?
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Post by McK&H.Aust » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:45 am

TrickyMario7654 wrote: I don't understand why they would put in temporary crossings that are signalized, wouldn't have been smarter just to make them passive to begin with?
The tunnel being constructed was (or would have been) quite a large project, the tunnel itself was to be around 3 or 4km long. There would have been lots of equipment being trucked in, plus all of the workers accessing the site. I guess they installed signals to make things safer, specially when considering the curve in the track approaching the crossings would have made visibility of approaching trains very difficult.

I remember that there were portable site offices set up near the tunnel entrance and high voltage power lines were installed to the site, it would have been very costly indeed. All of it was quickly removed once the project was cancelled, and for all of the money wasted I heard they only ended up digging about 100 or 200 metres of the tunnel.
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