Unless they've changed who they get the gate lights from, the gate lights at least are made by a British company (Unipart Rail).Username1 wrote:Damn got my hopes up.. I wonder why they painted the bells like that?McK&H.Aust wrote:They are the usual Westinghouse hybrids, although for some reason the gongs have been painted a different colour.Username1 wrote:Are these some Safetran hybrid bells on Coleman street in Warragul VIC?? https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/33 ... ca766e8dd4
Anyway does this mean that newly-installed crossings in Victoria (apart from the pedestrian crossings) are all USA made?
Australian Railroad Crossing Signals
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals
They/Them for me, please.
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals
As far as I know the only remaining Australian made equipment is the Westinghouse lights (made by Siemens but still with Westinghouse branding) and United Group lights (formerly Alstom). Pretty sure there are still some gates and gate lights made here too.Username1 wrote:Damn got my hopes up.. I wonder why they painted the bells like that?McK&H.Aust wrote:They are the usual Westinghouse hybrids, although for some reason the gongs have been painted a different colour.Username1 wrote:Are these some Safetran hybrid bells on Coleman street in Warragul VIC?? https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/33 ... ca766e8dd4
Anyway does this mean that newly-installed crossings in Victoria (apart from the pedestrian crossings) are all USA made?
As for gate mechanisms and bells, they are all made in the USA.
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals
Doesn't matter anyways, as they've been replaced with Safetran E-Bells.Username1 wrote:Damn got my hopes up.. I wonder why they painted the bells like that?McK&H.Aust wrote:They are the usual Westinghouse hybrids, although for some reason the gongs have been painted a different colour.Username1 wrote:Are these some Safetran hybrid bells on Coleman street in Warragul VIC?? https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/33 ... ca766e8dd4
Anyway does this mean that newly-installed crossings in Victoria (apart from the pedestrian crossings) are all USA made?
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.158 ... 56!6m1!1e1
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Here's something you don't see everyday, a set of McK&H lights on a late 90's install! Wonder if they were reused from another crossing or they had a set in spare?
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.733 ... 312!8i6656
Just further up the line, a crossing located in a cemetery entrance! You can see it's active in this shot.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.713 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.733 ... 312!8i6656
Just further up the line, a crossing located in a cemetery entrance! You can see it's active in this shot.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.713 ... 312!8i6656
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals
Reminds me of a crossing at Griffith NSW which was installed in the mid 1980's. One of the median signals has McK&H lights, I suspect the original signal could have been destroyed by a vehicle and they needed a replacement in a hurry, so they found this one laying around from another crossing https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.287 ... 312!8i6656TrickyMario7654 wrote:Here's something you don't see everyday, a set of McK&H lights on a late 90's install! Wonder if they were reused from another crossing or they were reused from another crossing?
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.733 ... 312!8i6656
Just further up the line, a crossing located in a cemetery entrance! You can see it's active in this shot.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.713 ... 312!8i6656
Interesting cemetery crossing, never seen one before. If someone is killed at the crossing, they won't have far to take them (I'm only joking, I hope that never happens)
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals
For some reason, your comment on the cemetery crossing made me smile.McK&H.Aust wrote:Reminds me of a crossing at Griffith NSW which was installed in the mid 1980's. One of the median signals has McK&H lights, I suspect the original signal could have been destroyed by a vehicle and they needed a replacement in a hurry, so they found this one laying around from another crossing https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.287 ... 312!8i6656
Interesting cemetery crossing, never seen one before. If someone is killed at the crossing, they won't have far to take them (I'm only joking, I hope that never happens)
Also, here's some photos I took today. The first crossing is located on Camms Road in Cranbourne.
I can confirm that the strange crossing lights I posted a while ago were made by GEC Alsthom.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... lQdWxLYW0w
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... VzeDdqTnRv
The crossing also has Westinghouse EB Gate Mechs (with graffiti murals all over them!)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... lhUE43QS1F
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... BQb2dPS0c4
One side has a faded crossing gate too!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... ZwMXo4ZTlv
The other is missing a visor on one of the lights!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... 5aM1IxelVZ
Turns out, that it's been like that for a while.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.097 ... 312!8i6656
An action shot.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... d5SEN3akg0
The second crossing is Evans Road in Lynbrook.
As I've posted before, this crossing is on a road to nowhere!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... 5jSFNnQjZv
Yet, it's still open to pedestrians.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... ZwWkFzZUI4
I can tell that they reused the Crossing ID sign from another crossing.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... hYVDA3b3F3
Another crossing with GEC lights.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... ktMXlOZmZv
This is also the only crossing on the Cranbourne line to have E-Bells.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... hfTWxhMXg4
The last crossing is Thompsons Road in Cranbourne North.
This one has a mix of Safetran and Westinghouse gate mechs.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... FIdFNUR1dV
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... J4cmZkRUJn
More GEC lights.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... ZEWlo2bzN3
An action shot.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... xlWXp1VEl3
Some LXRA propaganda.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... FySmNZNEFJ
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals
Nice pictures and great finds with those GEC lights, they are rare these days. I only knew of one crossing in NSW to have them, it was the one at Wollongong which I recently posted about that closed in 1989 (although those lights were a slightly earlier version).TrickyMario7654 wrote:Also, here's some photos I took today. The first crossing is located on Camms Road in Cranbourne.
I can confirm that the strange crossing lights I posted a while ago were made by GEC Alsthom.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... lQdWxLYW0w
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... VzeDdqTnRv
The crossing also has Westinghouse EB Gate Mechs (with graffiti murals all over them!)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... lhUE43QS1F
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... BQb2dPS0c4
One side has a faded crossing gate too!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... ZwMXo4ZTlv
The other is missing a visor on one of the lights!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... 5aM1IxelVZ
Turns out, that it's been like that for a while.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.097 ... 312!8i6656
An action shot.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... d5SEN3akg0
The second crossing is Evans Road in Lynbrook.
As I've posted before, this crossing is on a road to nowhere!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... 5jSFNnQjZv
Yet, it's still open to pedestrians.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... ZwWkFzZUI4
I can tell that they reused the Crossing ID sign from another crossing.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... hYVDA3b3F3
Another crossing with GEC lights.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... ktMXlOZmZv
This is also the only crossing on the Cranbourne line to have E-Bells.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... hfTWxhMXg4
The last crossing is Thompsons Road in Cranbourne North.
This one has a mix of Safetran and Westinghouse gate mechs.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... FIdFNUR1dV
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... J4cmZkRUJn
More GEC lights.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... ZEWlo2bzN3
An action shot.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... xlWXp1VEl3
Some LXRA propaganda.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Y7t ... FySmNZNEFJ
Interesting to see a crossing with a mix of gate mechs, it's not all that common. I think you are being kind to the person who did the graffiti on those Westinghouse mechs, I'd call it scribble rather than a mural
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals
Thanks, all of those crossings were installed in 1995, so it's safe to presume that those lights were still being manufactured at time time.McK&H.Aust wrote:Nice pictures and great finds with those GEC lights, they are rare these days. I only knew of one crossing in NSW to have them, it was the one at Wollongong which I recently posted about that closed in 1989 (although those lights were a slightly earlier version).
Interesting to see a crossing with a mix of gate mechs, it's not all that common. I think you are being kind to the person who did the graffiti on those Westinghouse mechs, I'd call it scribble rather than a mural
The earliest street view image for Thompsons Road shows it with both a Safetran and Westinghouse gate mech. Maybe they were out of EB gate mechs, and they had to use a Safetran gate mech instead?
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.080 ... 328!8i1664
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I can confirm that it was a Safetran bell. Take a look at this picture I found.McK&H.Aust wrote:I've had a look from a few angles and I'd say it was another Safetran bell.TrickyMario7654 wrote:Some more interesting things in Melbourne.
I noticed that at the Ripponlea crossing in 2007, the signal with the hybrid bell looked to of had a completely different bell! The image is completely blurry so I'm unable to tell what it is. (Though it looks like a Teardrop bell!)
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.876 ... 328!8i1664
https://www.flickr.com/photos/comeng301 ... 899872164/
Also, I just noticed something odd about one of the gate mechs at Poath Road. In 2009, the gate mech clearly looks to be a McK&H one.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.894 ... 312!8i6656
By 2013, it had became a WRRS one! What happened?
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.894 ... 312!8i6656
I should also point out that by 2011, the Safetran bell had been replaced with a hybrid bell! If you listen carefully to the clip at 2:18, you can actually hear the Teardrop bell that was on the other side.
I theorize that both the Safetran bells at Murrumbeena may have been replaced with hybrid bells, before being replaced with E-Bells!
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.889 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.889 ... 312!8i6656
Same with this one at Koornang Road.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.885 ... 312!8i6656
As clearly heard in this video, Murrumbeena had E-Bells by 2012 (Same with Cranegie and Hughesdale).
Metro, why do you keep removing Mechanical bells?!
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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals
Nice find there, you don't see that very often!TrickyMario7654 wrote:Also, I just noticed something odd about one of the gate mechs at Poath Road. In 2009, the gate mech clearly looks to be a McK&H one.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.894 ... 312!8i6656
By 2013, it had became a WRRS one! What happened?
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.894 ... 312!8i6656
It's possible that the McK&H mech was damaged and they needed to replace it in a hurry, there could have been a spare WRRS mech that was available to use as a replacement. The McK&H and the WRRS mechs seem to be almost identical and maybe they both use the same wiring and control circuit arrangements, it could have been a 'like for like' replacement without having to alter any of the existing wiring.
Another possibility is that the WRRS mechanism was refurbished as advertised by Siemens.