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Re: CSX Engine Retirements

Post by NathanFromEngland » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:59 am

freebrickproductions wrote:
Ethan the Railfanner wrote:Since CSX 130 - AC4400CW was retired, I'm likely thinking Amtrak 47 - P42DC was retired too? These were locomotives that were involved in the Dixiana, South Carolina train crash back in February.
It appears so, and likely scrapped as well, since it hasn't been seen since February:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locopi ... 166&Page=1
Judging by the photos, i couldn't understand how they could even repair them, 130 was unrepairable. While AMTK 47 is laying on its side. The engine in trail on the CSX train looks still usable because i don't really see any damage, but i wonder if they decided to retire that engine anyway?
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Re: CSX Engine Retirements

Post by Ethan the Railfanner » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:37 pm

The trailing locomotive was CSX 36 - AC4400CW. As far I know, it’s likely in storage. I saw CSX 36 in Greebrier, TN not too long ago, but I don’t remember seeing CSX 130 - AC4400CW in person before it was retired.
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Re: CSX Engine Retirements

Post by Ethan the Railfanner » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:05 pm

CSX Locomotive Roster Update As of 01 October 2018

Welcome to this month’s CSX Locomotive Roster Update! This update covers all changes discovered since 01 September through 01 October.

This report represents to the best of our knowledge, the working CSX locomotive roster. There are always changes we are not yet aware of – if you think you’ve spotted a new repaint, let us know!

This month we were able to confirm another slate of retirements, this time a bunch of random units in the end-cab switcher department. Interestingly, every single update for this month involves an EMD, no GEs to be found.

We can also confirm that CSX does have 10 SD70ACe-T4s on order for 2019 delivery, likely in Q1 or Q2. Beyond the fact that there is an order, we don’t yet know how they’ll be numbered, or anything else really.

Any questions? Comment below!

All Roster Changes since 01 September 2018
1104 SW1500 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1970 for L&N; YN3B;
1109 SW1500 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1970 for L&N; YN3;
1111 SW1500 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1971 for L&N; YN3;
1141 MP15 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for L&N; YN3B;
1143 MP15 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for L&N; YN3B;
1156 MP15AC Retired; Sold to Progress Rail; Built in 1977 for SCL; YN3;
1157 MP15AC Retired; Sold to Progress Rail; Built in 1977 for SCL; YN3;
1159 MP15AC Retired; Sold to Progress Rail; Built in 1977 for SCL; YN3;
1162 MP15AC Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1977 for SCL; YN3;
1172 MP15AC Retired; Sold to Progress Rail; Built in 1978 for SCL; YN3;
1214 MP15T Retired; Sold to St Mary's RR; Built in 1984 for SBD; YN3B;
1219 MP15T Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1985 for SBD; YN3;
1509 GP15T Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3;
1514 GP15T Retired; Sold to Adams Warnock; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3;
1520 GP15T Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3B;
1523 GP15T Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3;
1524 GP15T Retired; Sold to Adams Warnock; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3;
1534 GP15-1 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for CR; YN3;
1535 GP15-1 Retired; Sold to Valley RR; Built in 1979 for CR; YN3;
1545 GP15-1 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for CR; YN3;
1549 GP15-1 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for CR; YN3;
2214 RDSLUG Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1988 for CSX; YN3;
2225 RDSLUG Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1988 for CSX; YN3;
2296 RDSLUG Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1990 for CSX; YN3;
2574 GP38-2 Retired; Sold to Progress Rail. Built in 1972 for L&N; YN3;
2661 GP38-2 Retired; Sold to Progress Rail. Built in 1979 for GA; YN3;
6031 GP40-2 YN3 Repaint
6150 GP38-2S Retired; Sold to Progress Rail. Built in 1977 for B&O; YN3;
6427 GP40-2 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1978 for B&O; YN3;
6443 GP40-2 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1981 for B&O; YN3;
8040 SD40-2 YN3 Repaint
8431 SD40-2 YN3 Repaint
8487 SD40-2 YN3 Repaint
8579 SD50-2 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1984 for B&O; YN3;

Retirement Detail – Update to fleet Size:
Now 16 SW1500 (-3)
Now 7 MP15 (-2)
Now 47 MP15AC (-5)
Now 38 MP15T (-2)
Now 20 GP15T (-5)
Now 22 GP15-1 (-2)
Now 172 RDSLUG (-3)
Now 215 GP38-2 (-2)
Now 34 GP38-2S (-1)
Now 334 GP40-2 (-2)
Now 148 SD50-2 (-1)

Current Paint totals, (pct), change:
YN3B: 1455 (37.58%) -1
YN3: 1929 (49.79%) -29
YN2: 489 (12.63%)

Builder totals, (pct), change:
General Electric: 1917 (49.51%)
Electro-Motive: 1363 (35.20%) -27
CSX in-house: 233 (5.99%) -1
Other: 360 (9.00%) -2

Built for totals, (pct)
CSX Transportation: 2669 (68.90%) -3
Seaboard System: 478 (12.35%) -14
Chessie System: 392 (10.12%) -9
Conrail: 327 (8.45%) -4
EMD Locomotive Leasing: 4 (0.10%)
Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac: 3 (0.08%)

Traction Type
AC: 1564
DC: 2309 (-30)

YN2 EMDs Remaining: 26

Average Fleet Build Date*: 1996.42 (+0.14)
Total Units on Roster: 3873 (-30)
Total Available Horsepower: 13,224,500 (-46,500) -0.4%
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Re: CSX Engine Retirements

Post by NathanFromEngland » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:46 am

Ethan the Railfanner wrote:CSX Locomotive Roster Update As of 01 October 2018

Welcome to this month’s CSX Locomotive Roster Update! This update covers all changes discovered since 01 September through 01 October.

This report represents to the best of our knowledge, the working CSX locomotive roster. There are always changes we are not yet aware of – if you think you’ve spotted a new repaint, let us know!

This month we were able to confirm another slate of retirements, this time a bunch of random units in the end-cab switcher department. Interestingly, every single update for this month involves an EMD, no GEs to be found.

We can also confirm that CSX does have 10 SD70ACe-T4s on order for 2019 delivery, likely in Q1 or Q2. Beyond the fact that there is an order, we don’t yet know how they’ll be numbered, or anything else really.

Any questions? Comment below!

All Roster Changes since 01 September 2018
1104 SW1500 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1970 for L&N; YN3B;
1109 SW1500 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1970 for L&N; YN3;
1111 SW1500 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1971 for L&N; YN3;
1141 MP15 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for L&N; YN3B;
1143 MP15 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for L&N; YN3B;
1156 MP15AC Retired; Sold to Progress Rail; Built in 1977 for SCL; YN3;
1157 MP15AC Retired; Sold to Progress Rail; Built in 1977 for SCL; YN3;
1159 MP15AC Retired; Sold to Progress Rail; Built in 1977 for SCL; YN3;
1162 MP15AC Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1977 for SCL; YN3;
1172 MP15AC Retired; Sold to Progress Rail; Built in 1978 for SCL; YN3;
1214 MP15T Retired; Sold to St Mary's RR; Built in 1984 for SBD; YN3B;
1219 MP15T Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1985 for SBD; YN3;
1509 GP15T Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3;
1514 GP15T Retired; Sold to Adams Warnock; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3;
1520 GP15T Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3B;
1523 GP15T Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3;
1524 GP15T Retired; Sold to Adams Warnock; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3;
1534 GP15-1 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for CR; YN3;
1535 GP15-1 Retired; Sold to Valley RR; Built in 1979 for CR; YN3;
1545 GP15-1 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for CR; YN3;
1549 GP15-1 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for CR; YN3;
2214 RDSLUG Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1988 for CSX; YN3;
2225 RDSLUG Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1988 for CSX; YN3;
2296 RDSLUG Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1990 for CSX; YN3;
2574 GP38-2 Retired; Sold to Progress Rail. Built in 1972 for L&N; YN3;
2661 GP38-2 Retired; Sold to Progress Rail. Built in 1979 for GA; YN3;
6031 GP40-2 YN3 Repaint
6150 GP38-2S Retired; Sold to Progress Rail. Built in 1977 for B&O; YN3;
6427 GP40-2 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1978 for B&O; YN3;
6443 GP40-2 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1981 for B&O; YN3;
8040 SD40-2 YN3 Repaint
8431 SD40-2 YN3 Repaint
8487 SD40-2 YN3 Repaint
8579 SD50-2 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1984 for B&O; YN3;

Retirement Detail – Update to fleet Size:
Now 16 SW1500 (-3)
Now 7 MP15 (-2)
Now 47 MP15AC (-5)
Now 38 MP15T (-2)
Now 20 GP15T (-5)
Now 22 GP15-1 (-2)
Now 172 RDSLUG (-3)
Now 215 GP38-2 (-2)
Now 34 GP38-2S (-1)
Now 334 GP40-2 (-2)
Now 148 SD50-2 (-1)

Current Paint totals, (pct), change:
YN3B: 1455 (37.58%) -1
YN3: 1929 (49.79%) -29
YN2: 489 (12.63%)

Builder totals, (pct), change:
General Electric: 1917 (49.51%)
Electro-Motive: 1363 (35.20%) -27
CSX in-house: 233 (5.99%) -1
Other: 360 (9.00%) -2

Built for totals, (pct)
CSX Transportation: 2669 (68.90%) -3
Seaboard System: 478 (12.35%) -14
Chessie System: 392 (10.12%) -9
Conrail: 327 (8.45%) -4
EMD Locomotive Leasing: 4 (0.10%)
Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac: 3 (0.08%)

Traction Type
AC: 1564
DC: 2309 (-30)

YN2 EMDs Remaining: 26

Average Fleet Build Date*: 1996.42 (+0.14)
Total Units on Roster: 3873 (-30)
Total Available Horsepower: 13,224,500 (-46,500) -0.4%
Now they're going for their switcher units, no wonder why they retired their NRE 3GS21B so early, i feel like they weren't even given a chance.
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Re: CSX Engine Retirements

Post by Ethan the Railfanner » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:09 am

Also, I found this:

CSX Locomotive Roster, if all storage units were retired

So this hypothetical update takes the current roster and subtracts out all units currently in storage as part of the precision scheduled railroading makeover. Basically we take the storage list and “retire” them all. Yes, it’s gross. There are over 800 units on the storage list. No, we don’t think they’ll all be going away. But it’s an interesting “what if”. So here goes…

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What all would be retired?
1 ES44AH, leaving 548
2 CW44AH, leaving 126
23 CW44AC, leaving 461
1 ES40DC, leaving 300
13 C40-9W, leaving 36
3 C40-8WM, leaving 7
104 C40-8W, leaving 90
114 SD70AC, leaving 87
18 SD60, leaving 3
19 SD60I, leaving 4
12 SD60M, leaving 2
130 SD50-2, leaving 18
36 SD40-2, leaving 223
90 GP40-2, leaving 244
6 GP39-2, leaving 14
5 SD38-2, leaving 0
52 GP38-2, leaving 163
8 GP38-2S, leaving 26
16 GP15-1, leaving 6
7 GP15T, leaving 13
5 MP15, leaving 2
18 MP15T, leaving 20
33 MP15AC, leaving 14
9 SW1500, leaving 5
3 SD50-3, leaving 11
3 SD40-3, leaving 147
2 GP40-3, leaving 61
3 GP38-3, leaving 61
66 RDSLUG, leaving 106
7 SWMTYS, leaving 16

It’s worth noting here that for many model types, like the GEVOs, that the units in storage are likely mechanical in nature, but deemed currently not worth rebuilding, so they’re left in storage. But the mass storage types, like the SD50-2, SD70AC, and C40-8W are clearly visible as potential losses to future cuts.

With all of this in mind, if these units were all retired tomorrow, the new roster stats would look like:

Paint totals, (pct), change:
YN3B: 1275 (41.63%) -180
YN3: 1384 (45.18%) -545
YN2: 404 (13.19%) -85

Builder totals, (pct), change:
General Electric: 1770 (57.79%) -147
Electro-Motive: 795 (25.95%) -568
CSX in-house: 217 (7.08%) -16
Other: 281 (9.00%) -79

Built for totals, (pct)
CSX Transportation: 2331 (76.10%) -338
Seaboard System: 272 (8.88%) -206
Chessie System: 260 (8.49%) -132
Conrail: 194 (6.33%) -133
EMD Locomotive Leasing: 3 (0.10%) -1
Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac: 3 (0.10%)

Traction Type
AC: 1424 (-140)
DC: 1639 (-670)

YN2 EMDs Remaining: 16 (-10)

Average Fleet Build Date*: 1998.71 (+2.29)
Total Units on Roster: 3063 (-810)
Total Available Horsepower: 10,872,900 (-2,351,600) -17.8%

No, they are not going to retire all of these locomotives in their next update, but this is an imagine if CSX retired all of their locomotives in storage.
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Re: CSX Engine Retirements

Post by NathanFromEngland » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:59 pm

Look's like no locomotives were retired in November, and i'm not aware of any locomotives that were scrapped in wrecks or damaged, etc.

The SD70ACe T-4's are not far off from their delivery to CSX within the next few months either.
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Re: CSX Engine Retirements

Post by NathanFromEngland » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:55 pm

Several have asked now about the 7812. As the "CSX 1992", it led Bush 41's 1992 re-election campaign whistle stop tour.

It is still on the roster, still wearing YN2.

Full roster update coming shortly. We only had two change discoveries in October so this will be a combined Oct/Nov update.
I wonder what could change by then, maybe a few retirements, or maybe a mass-retiring...
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Re: CSX Engine Retirements

Post by NathanFromEngland » Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:51 pm

CSX Locomotive Roster Update As of 01 December 2018

Welcome to this month’s CSX Locomotive Roster Update! This update covers all changes discovered since 01 October through 01 December.

This report represents to the best of our knowledge, the working CSX locomotive roster. There are always changes we are not yet aware of – if you think you’ve spotted a new repaint, let us know!

There was no update in November because we only had one repaint to share – hardly worth putting the report together. The good news is we found more changes in November: the bad news is that it was limited to just three more repaints for a grand total of just four changes discovered in the last two months.

Any questions? Comment below!

All Roster Changes since 01 October 2018
2359 RDSLUG YN3 Repaint
2813 GP38-2 YN3 Repaint
6959 GP40-2 YN3 Repaint
8822 SD40-2 YN3 Repaint

Retirement Detail – Update to fleet Size:
none

Current Paint totals, (pct), change:
YN3B: 1459 (37.67%) +4
YN3: 1925 (49.70%) -4
YN2: 489 (12.63%)

Builder totals, (pct), change:
General Electric: 1917 (49.51%)
Electro-Motive: 1363 (35.20%)
CSX in-house: 233 (5.99%)
Other: 360 (9.00%)

Built for totals, (pct)
CSX Transportation: 2669 (68.90%)
Seaboard System: 478 (12.35%)
Chessie System: 392 (10.12%)
Conrail: 327 (8.45%)
EMD Locomotive Leasing: 4 (0.10%)
Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac: 3 (0.08%)

Traction Type
AC: 1564
DC: 2309

YN2 EMDs Remaining: 26

Average Fleet Build Date*: 1996.42 (no change)
Total Units on Roster: 3873 (no change)
Total Available Horsepower: 13,224,500 (no change)
Looks like nothing really happened except for four locomotives getting repainted.
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Re: CSX Engine Retirements

Post by NathanFromEngland » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:44 pm

Look's like the new 10 SD70ACe T-4's that CSX have ordered are slowly coming closer...
Report: CSX's 10-unit order of SD70ACe-T4s will be numbered 8900-8909. Unconfirmed.

Delivery timeline likely late Q1 or early Q2.
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Re: CSX Engine Retirements

Post by Ethan the Railfanner » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:18 pm

CSX Locomotive Roster Update As of 01 January 2019

Welcome to this month’s CSX Locomotive Roster Update! This update covers all changes discovered since 01 December.

This report represents to the best of our knowledge, the working CSX locomotive roster, as of the date above. There are always changes we are not yet aware of – if you think you’ve spotted a new repaint, let us know!

Note that there are around 200 retirements newly found and posted about on this page, but all occurred after the first of the year – so those will be detailed in the next update.

Any questions? Comment below!

All Roster Changes since 01 December 2018
6403 GP40-2 YN3 Repaint
8128 SD40-2 YN3 Repaint

Retirement Detail – Update to fleet Size:
none

Current Paint totals, (pct), change:
YN3B: 1461 (37.72%) +2
YN3: 1923 (49.65%) -2
YN2: 489 (12.63%)

Builder totals, (pct), change:
General Electric: 1917 (49.50%)
Electro-Motive: 1363 (35.19%)
CSX in-house: 233 (6.02%)
Other: 360 (9.00%)

Built for totals, (pct)
CSX Transportation: 2669 (68.90%)
Seaboard System: 478 (12.35%)
Chessie System: 392 (10.12%)
Conrail: 327 (8.45%)
EMD Locomotive Leasing: 4 (0.10%)
Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac: 3 (0.08%)

Traction Type
AC: 1564
DC: 2309

YN2 EMDs Remaining: 26

Average Fleet Build Date*: 1996.42 (no change)
Total Units on Roster: 3873 (no change)
Total Available Horsepower: 13,224,500 (no change)

It also sounds like the SD50s are too getting retired...

Quickie update on the SD50-2/SD60 retirements. Here's who is getting goodies out of this latest retirement round, based on the latest reports.

SD50-2s: 144 retired in total:
- 6 to Lake State Ry: 2477, 2490, 2498, 8527, 8577, 8599
- 4 to Reading & Northern: 8507, 8550, 8592, 8606
- 6 to KK Recycling: 2499, 8530, 8551, 8565, 8640, 8663
- 2 to Metro East Industries: 8535, 8543
- 126 to Larry's Truck and Electric (LTEX)

SD60s: 21 retired in total:
- 2 to Pennsylvania Northeastern: 8701, 8711
- 19 to Progress Rail

SD60Is: 22 retired in total:
- 2 to Metro East Industries: 8736, 8744
- 20 to Progress Rail

SD60Ms: 14 retired in total:
- 6 to Yadkin Valley RR: 8769, 8771, 8772, 8781, 8783, 8786
- 4 to Lancaster & Chester RR: 8770, 8778, 8782, 8784
- 4 to Knoxville and Holston River RR: 8774, 8775, 8780, 8785

These changes leave 4 SD50-2s, 0 SD60s, 1 SD60I and 10 SD60Ms on CSX.

If you hear any 8500, 8600 or 8700s leading a train, it's one you'll wanna track down for sure. Who knows how long the rest will last. Even if they hold on, they're rare beasts now.
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