That wouldn't surprise me, Sydney Trains have copped criticism in the past for building some infrastructure to "gold plated" standards. I really don't know how the installation of gates at Clifton can be justified (apart from using up the budget), it's a very quiet road which is only used as access for a few houses further up the hill. It's a dead end road so nobody else really goes up there and I've never heard of any accidents at the crossing. On both days when I was filming I never saw any vehicles use the crossing, for a couple of the shots I actually had my tripod set up in the middle of the road! At least they spent some money using decent e-bells, WCH would be my favourite out of all the e-bells currently on the market.freebrickproductions wrote:Probably got a budget to "justify". Some government agencies operate on a "use it or loose it" budget, where they have to use every cent in their budget within that fiscal year or else it gets cut to what they spend in the next one.TrickyMario7654 wrote: I've seen your video on the new signals at Clifton. I'm confused as to why they replaced the additional warning signals on the other side of the road. Wouldn't of been cheaper to just keep them and replace the ones were the gates are meant to go in? They've done it in Victoria on a few occasions.
Australian Railroad Crossing Signals
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Coming to think of it, there's this crossing not too far from my home in Nar Nar Goon which is located on a road that dead end's around a kilometre after this crossing, and only provides accesses to a few properties. Yet, it was a fully active setup with gates!McK&H.Aust wrote:That wouldn't surprise me, Sydney Trains have copped criticism in the past for building some infrastructure to "gold plated" standards. I really don't know how the installation of gates at Clifton can be justified (apart from using up the budget), it's a very quiet road which is only used as access for a few houses further up the hill. It's a dead end road so nobody else really goes up there and I've never heard of any accidents at the crossing. On both days when I was filming I never saw any vehicles use the crossing, for a couple of the shots I actually had my tripod set up in the middle of the road! At least they spent some money using decent e-bells, WCH would be my favourite out of all the e-bells currently on the market.freebrickproductions wrote:Probably got a budget to "justify". Some government agencies operate on a "use it or loose it" budget, where they have to use every cent in their budget within that fiscal year or else it gets cut to what they spend in the next one.TrickyMario7654 wrote: I've seen your video on the new signals at Clifton. I'm confused as to why they replaced the additional warning signals on the other side of the road. Wouldn't of been cheaper to just keep them and replace the ones were the gates are meant to go in? They've done it in Victoria on a few occasions.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.080 ... 328!8i1664
Here's were the road ends. If you can't tell, this road used to connect with the road to the opposite side of the Pakenham bypass, but was cut off during construction due to it being such a quiet road.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.074 ... 328!8i1664
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.073 ... 328!8i1664
Metro, why do you keep removing Mechanical bells?!
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Found the Siemens Download Centre for Australia, some interesting stuff on there if you have some spare time
http://download.siemens.com.au/download ... ?&start=10
Found some stuff on there about the Westinghouse EB gate mechs. It also mentions that they do refurbishments on WRRS gate mechs!
http://download.siemens.com.au/index.ph ... c_id=18029
This is their product list. Lots of products to get through but the level crossing products start on page 19 with spare parts for the EB gate mechs. Near the bottom of page 23 it mentions the WRRS gate mech refurbishments which are done at their Melbourne workshop. Near the bottom of page 21 one of the parts on the list is a lower pinion for a Griswold Barrier Motor!!
http://download.siemens.com.au/index.ph ... c_id=18585
http://download.siemens.com.au/download ... ?&start=10
Found some stuff on there about the Westinghouse EB gate mechs. It also mentions that they do refurbishments on WRRS gate mechs!
http://download.siemens.com.au/index.ph ... c_id=18029
This is their product list. Lots of products to get through but the level crossing products start on page 19 with spare parts for the EB gate mechs. Near the bottom of page 23 it mentions the WRRS gate mech refurbishments which are done at their Melbourne workshop. Near the bottom of page 21 one of the parts on the list is a lower pinion for a Griswold Barrier Motor!!
http://download.siemens.com.au/index.ph ... c_id=18585
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Interesting finds.McK&H.Aust wrote:Found the Siemens Download Centre for Australia, some interesting stuff on there if you have some spare time
http://download.siemens.com.au/download ... ?&start=10
Found some stuff on there about the Westinghouse EB gate mechs. It also mentions that they do refurbishments on WRRS gate mechs!
http://download.siemens.com.au/index.ph ... c_id=18029
This is their product list. Lots of products to get through but the level crossing products start on page 19 with spare parts for the EB gate mechs. Near the bottom of page 23 it mentions the WRRS gate mech refurbishments which are done at their Melbourne workshop. Near the bottom of page 21 one of the parts on the list is a lower pinion for a Griswold Barrier Motor!!
http://download.siemens.com.au/index.ph ... c_id=18585
Also, it seems that Metro even replace newer equipment too!
This Safetran Gate Mech in Edithvale...
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.038 ... 312!8i6656
...Got replaced with an Invensys Gate Mech!
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.038 ... 312!8i6656
Metro, why do you keep removing Mechanical bells?!
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Wouldn't be surprised if the Safetran died.TrickyMario7654 wrote: Also, it seems that Metro even replace newer equipment too!
This Safetran Gate Mech in Edithvale...
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.038 ... 312!8i6656
...Got replaced with an Invensys Gate Mech!
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.038 ... 312!8i6656
They/Them for me, please.
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That's a good theory.freebrickproductions wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if the Safetran died.TrickyMario7654 wrote: Also, it seems that Metro even replace newer equipment too!
This Safetran Gate Mech in Edithvale...
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.038 ... 312!8i6656
...Got replaced with an Invensys Gate Mech!
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.038 ... 312!8i6656
Metro, why do you keep removing Mechanical bells?!
Click here if you want to see which crossings haven't been ruined by Metro Trains bell nazis.
Click here if you want to see which crossings haven't been ruined by Metro Trains bell nazis.
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Are these some Safetran hybrid bells on Coleman street in Warragul VIC?? https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/33 ... ca766e8dd4
Metro, why are you so bad at maintaining your railway crossings??
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Yes you are absolutely right, found these on the Siemens websitechris96 wrote:McK&H.Aust wrote: I'm guessing that those Westinghouse lights are no longer being made since Siemens took over, as I haven't seen any new ones installed in NSW for a few years now. Interesting how that crossing is not very old and already it has rare equipment!
For some reason, they keep appearing on new installations here in Victoria all the time! I believe they are still being manufactured and sold by Siemens but they haven't changed the mold yet!
http://download.siemens.com.au/index.ph ... c_id=18033
http://download.siemens.com.au/index.ph ... c_id=16959
It seems that they also make 12 inch (300mm) lights, can't remember seeing any around but this must be what they look like. Are there any in Victoria?
http://download.siemens.com.au/index.ph ... c_id=16961
As mentioned in a previous post, another service offered by Siemens is the refurbishment or WRRS gate mechs! Can't see too many takers though, if you're going to remove the old mechanism and send it away then it's probably just easier to install a new one.
http://download.siemens.com.au/index.ph ... c_id=16967
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They are the usual Westinghouse hybrids, although for some reason the gongs have been painted a different colour.Username1 wrote:Are these some Safetran hybrid bells on Coleman street in Warragul VIC?? https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/33 ... ca766e8dd4
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Damn got my hopes up.. I wonder why they painted the bells like that?McK&H.Aust wrote:They are the usual Westinghouse hybrids, although for some reason the gongs have been painted a different colour.Username1 wrote:Are these some Safetran hybrid bells on Coleman street in Warragul VIC?? https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/33 ... ca766e8dd4
Anyway does this mean that newly-installed crossings in Victoria (apart from the pedestrian crossings) are all USA made?
Metro, why are you so bad at maintaining your railway crossings??