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by freebrickproductions Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:02 am
ZachL wrote: freebrickproductions wrote: This one looks like it has LED lights!
Well at least Canada hasn't outlawed new installations of 8" lights on public at-grade crossings, although these appear to be retrofitted.
8 inch lights are still legal here in America (outside of IL and maybe a few other places), as per the MUTCD, but they recommend using the guidelines used for determining traffic signal lens size for new installs (such as it being less than 120 feet from the stop line on a roadway with a posted or statutory speed limit of 30 mph or less).
Sources:
MUTCD Chapter 4, Section 4D.07, Paragraphs 1-4:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/part4/part4d.htm
MUTCD Chapter 8, Section 8C.02, Figure 8C-1:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/ ... ngdesc.htm
MUTCD Chapter 8, Section 8C.02, Paragraph 8:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/part8/part8c.htm
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by freebrickproductions Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:43 am
Being on the eastern Seaboard, there's also a very good chance that it's actually an MI bell rather than a US&S bell.
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by ZachL Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:38 pm
freebrickproductions wrote: ZachL wrote: freebrickproductions wrote: This one looks like it has LED lights!
Well at least Canada hasn't outlawed new installations of 8" lights on public at-grade crossings, although these appear to be retrofitted.
8 inch lights are still legal here in America (outside of IL and maybe a few other places), as per the MUTCD, but they recommend using the guidelines used for determining traffic signal lens size for new installs (such as it being less than 120 feet from the stop line on a roadway with a posted or statutory speed limit of 30 mph or less).
Sources:
MUTCD Chapter 4, Section 4D.07, Paragraphs 1-4:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/part4/part4d.htm
MUTCD Chapter 8, Section 8C.02, Figure 8C-1:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/ ... ngdesc.htm
MUTCD Chapter 8, Section 8C.02, Paragraph 8:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/part8/part8c.htm
I could have sworn it was stated that the FRA outlawed them at public at-grade crossings somewhere on this site???
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by freebrickproductions Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:52 pm
ZachL wrote: freebrickproductions wrote: ZachL wrote: freebrickproductions wrote: This one looks like it has LED lights!
Well at least Canada hasn't outlawed new installations of 8" lights on public at-grade crossings, although these appear to be retrofitted.
8 inch lights are still legal here in America (outside of IL and maybe a few other places), as per the MUTCD, but they recommend using the guidelines used for determining traffic signal lens size for new installs (such as it being less than 120 feet from the stop line on a roadway with a posted or statutory speed limit of 30 mph or less).
Sources:
MUTCD Chapter 4, Section 4D.07, Paragraphs 1-4:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/part4/part4d.htm
MUTCD Chapter 8, Section 8C.02, Figure 8C-1:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/ ... ngdesc.htm
MUTCD Chapter 8, Section 8C.02, Paragraph 8:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/part8/part8c.htm
I could have sworn it was stated that the FRA outlawed them at public at-grade crossings somewhere on this site???
If that were the case, then Strasburg probably wouldn't have gotten any on the new Paradise Lane crossing signals!
I do know Illinois has banned the installation of any new 8 inch lights, and most railroads standardized 12 inch lights as it's easier (and probably cheaper) to just buy 12 inch lights in bulk and put them up on all new signal installs. But I haven't heard of any FRA bans on them. Maybe someone like Paul could chime in?
ZachL
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by ZachL Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:24 pm
freebrickproductions wrote: ZachL wrote: freebrickproductions wrote: ZachL wrote: freebrickproductions wrote: This one looks like it has LED lights!
Well at least Canada hasn't outlawed new installations of 8" lights on public at-grade crossings, although these appear to be retrofitted.
8 inch lights are still legal here in America (outside of IL and maybe a few other places), as per the MUTCD, but they recommend using the guidelines used for determining traffic signal lens size for new installs (such as it being less than 120 feet from the stop line on a roadway with a posted or statutory speed limit of 30 mph or less).
Sources:
MUTCD Chapter 4, Section 4D.07, Paragraphs 1-4:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/part4/part4d.htm
MUTCD Chapter 8, Section 8C.02, Figure 8C-1:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/ ... ngdesc.htm
MUTCD Chapter 8, Section 8C.02, Paragraph 8:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/part8/part8c.htm
I could have sworn it was stated that the FRA outlawed them at public at-grade crossings somewhere on this site???
If that were the case, then Strasburg probably wouldn't have gotten any on the new Paradise Lane crossing signals!
I do know Illinois has banned the installation of any new 8 inch lights, and most railroads standardized 12 inch lights as it's easier (and probably cheaper) to just buy 12 inch lights in bulk and put them up on all new signal installs. But I haven't heard of any FRA bans on them. Maybe someone like Paul could chime in?
Hmm, I could have sworn it. However, according to
this page , all federally-funded signal installs must use 12" lights.
ZachL
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by ZachL Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:30 pm
More than likely that sign is just a decoy to scare motorists.
Track labling/naming, if I had to guess!
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by freebrickproductions Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:16 pm
ZachL wrote: freebrickproductions wrote: ZachL wrote: freebrickproductions wrote: ZachL wrote: freebrickproductions wrote: This one looks like it has LED lights!
Well at least Canada hasn't outlawed new installations of 8" lights on public at-grade crossings, although these appear to be retrofitted.
8 inch lights are still legal here in America (outside of IL and maybe a few other places), as per the MUTCD, but they recommend using the guidelines used for determining traffic signal lens size for new installs (such as it being less than 120 feet from the stop line on a roadway with a posted or statutory speed limit of 30 mph or less).
Sources:
MUTCD Chapter 4, Section 4D.07, Paragraphs 1-4:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/part4/part4d.htm
MUTCD Chapter 8, Section 8C.02, Figure 8C-1:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/ ... ngdesc.htm
MUTCD Chapter 8, Section 8C.02, Paragraph 8:
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/part8/part8c.htm
I could have sworn it was stated that the FRA outlawed them at public at-grade crossings somewhere on this site???
If that were the case, then Strasburg probably wouldn't have gotten any on the new Paradise Lane crossing signals!
I do know Illinois has banned the installation of any new 8 inch lights, and most railroads standardized 12 inch lights as it's easier (and probably cheaper) to just buy 12 inch lights in bulk and put them up on all new signal installs. But I haven't heard of any FRA bans on them. Maybe someone like Paul could chime in?
Hmm, I could have sworn it. However, according to
this page , all federally-funded signal installs must use 12" lights.
I guess that makes sense.
I do know Illinois has banned the installation of any new 8 inch lights, and most railroads standardized 12 inch lights as it's easier (and probably cheaper) to just buy 12 inch lights in bulk and put them up on all new signal installs. But I haven't heard of any FRA bans on them. Maybe someone like Paul could chime in?
