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Re: locations of EM gates!

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:48 pm
by dan the ca railfan

Re: locations of EM gates!

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:54 am
by ZachL
Those are all out service, belong in the tracks out of service thread, and have all been posted there already too

Re: locations of EM gates!

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:34 am
by freebrickproductions
ZachL wrote:
Those are all out service, belong in the tracks out of service thread, and have all been posted there already too
Again, they can still be posted here as these types of threads are for all locations of something that are still around, whether in or out of service.

Re: locations of EM gates!

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:03 pm
by NathanFromEngland
dan the ca railfan wrote: some in valejo ca
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.1049372 ... authuser=0
Hard to tell, but it appears that the other gate has now been removed.
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.1048399 ... authuser=0

Re: locations of EM gates!

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:23 pm
by dan the ca railfan
NathanFromEngland wrote:
dan the ca railfan wrote: some in valejo ca
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.1049372 ... authuser=0
Hard to tell, but it appears that the other gate has now been removed.
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.1048399 ... authuser=0
looks like they are both still there actually!

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.1048399 ... authuser=0

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.1047838 ... authuser=0

it appers that the gate mech you are refering to is still there however the actuall gate is gone so i can see how you though it was removed

Re: locations of EM gates!

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:37 pm
by NathanFromEngland
dan the ca railfan wrote:
NathanFromEngland wrote:
dan the ca railfan wrote: some in valejo ca
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.1049372 ... authuser=0
Hard to tell, but it appears that the other gate has now been removed.
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.1048399 ... authuser=0
looks like they are both still there actually!

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.1048399 ... authuser=0

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.1047838 ... authuser=0

it appers that the gate mech you are refering to is still there however the actuall gate is gone so i can see how you though it was removed
Actually, i was referring to the crossing gate, either it was removed by a signal maintainer for safety reasons or anything else, or it may've just been removed by someone looking for either a cheap buck or for a crossing signal in their garden

(Note, i do respect people who build crossing signals in their gardens and all that, i don't disrespect them, as its a hobby for them)

Here are some Safetran EM gate mechanisms in Dagett, California.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@34.86268 ... 312!8i6656

Re: locations of EM gates!

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:42 pm
by dan the ca railfan
Here are some Safetran EM gate mechanisms in Dagett, California.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@34.86268 ... 312!8i6656[/quote]

nice find i didn't know that the SP ever used safetran EM gates as the main line that tracks connect to is owned by the bnsf however it was originally built by the SP as part of the sunset route.

Re: locations of EM gates!

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:55 pm
by NathanFromEngland
NathanFromEngland wrote:Here are some Safetran EM gate mechanisms in Dagett, California.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@34.86268 ... 312!8i6656
dan the ca railfan wrote:nice find i didn't know that the SP ever used safetran EM gates as the main line that tracks connect to is owned by the bnsf however it was originally built by the SP as part of the sunset route.
I believe Safetran might've tried to break into EM Gates around the 60's, but i guess when Griswold was making a ton of money from making them and selling them to various railroad around the Western U.S, while WRRS/GRS were also producing their gate mechanisms around the country, so Safetran followed in WRRS/GRS's footsteps, as did every other company.

Griswold was acquired by RACO in 1964 although they kept marketing their items under Griswold and RACO respectively (I might be telling false facts here, considering i'm British) It was around 1971 when Safetran acquired RACO.

Along with that, I don't think Safetran would've really make that much off their EM mechs of their own, and it probably would've lead to a lawsuit or something, and also, EM's were not great things to work on.

Re: locations of EM gates!

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:14 am
by freebrickproductions
NathanFromEngland wrote:
NathanFromEngland wrote:Here are some Safetran EM gate mechanisms in Dagett, California.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@34.86268 ... 312!8i6656
dan the ca railfan wrote:nice find i didn't know that the SP ever used safetran EM gates as the main line that tracks connect to is owned by the bnsf however it was originally built by the SP as part of the sunset route.
I believe Safetran might've tried to break into EM Gates around the 60's, but i guess when Griswold was making a ton of money from making them and selling them to various railroad around the Western U.S, while WRRS/GRS were also producing their gate mechanisms around the country, so Safetran followed in WRRS/GRS's footsteps, as did every other company.

Griswold was acquired by RACO in 1964 although they kept marketing their items under Griswold and RACO respectively (I might be telling false facts here, considering i'm British) It was around 1971 when Safetran acquired RACO.

Along with that, I don't think Safetran would've really make that much off their EM mechs of their own, and it probably would've lead to a lawsuit or something, and also, EM's were not great things to work on.
Griswold and Transport Products Corp. merged to form RACO. Sometime in the 1970s, RACO became Safetran. Early Safetran equipment was pretty much the same as all of the equipment RACO produced, except for the logos being changed (RACO's equipment was also pretty much the same as their predecessors but with the logos changed and a few new items like the 12 inch lights), so Safetran continued to produce the EM gate mechs until discontinuing them sometime later, likely due to declining sales for them while the Safetran S-series gate mechs were gaining in popularity as they were easier to maintain.

Re: locations of EM gates!

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:39 pm
by dan the ca railfan
filber st. stockton ca on a bnsf spur line!

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@37.96191 ... 312!8i6656