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Re: Google Street View

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:15 am
by ToledoRailfan
ZachL wrote:
ToledoRailfan wrote:
ZachL wrote:
ToledoRailfan wrote:
ZachL wrote:
ToledoRailfan wrote:Kind of an interesting setup. Incandescent signals too! :TUP2:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5085683 ... 6656?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5090969 ... 6656?hl=en
Beacons like that at stop signs are very common in rural parts of Florida.
I'm referring to how the signals aren't facing the opposite direction.
I'm not sure if I follow what you mean by the signals not facing the opposite direction.
It is kind of self-explanatory although I could have explained that better, typically when span wire or a mast arm is over a piece a road, the signals would be facing towards the intersection.
I still don't think I'm following... could you perhaps share an example of what you mean as comparison?
At this intersection the signals are facing away from the intersection.
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While at this intersection the signals are facing toward the intersection.
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Re: Google Street View

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:18 am
by ZachL
I guess that's just not common where you are. A lot of signals in Florida are configured like that where the signals facing towards their proper side of the road are on the closer side to the driver.

Re: Google Street View

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:04 pm
by cabman701
ZachL wrote:I guess that's just not common where you are. A lot of signals in Florida are configured like that where the signals facing towards their proper side of the road are on the closer side to the driver.
Yes... I know exactly what you mean. This intersection below comes to mind. You pull up to the line at a red light and the signals are practically over your hood. You have to lean forward and look up to watch for the signal to change.

I understand them not wanting to use as many cantilevers (I guess for ease of installation)... but in some cases it's a bit ridiculous.

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7706842 ... 6656?hl=en

Re: Google Street View

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:11 pm
by freebrickproductions
cabman701 wrote:
ZachL wrote:I guess that's just not common where you are. A lot of signals in Florida are configured like that where the signals facing towards their proper side of the road are on the closer side to the driver.
Yes... I know exactly what you mean. This intersection below comes to mind. You pull up to the line at a red light and the signals are practically over your hood. You have to lean forward and look up to watch for the signal to change.

I understand them not wanting to use as many cantilevers (I guess for ease of installation)... but in some cases it's a bit ridiculous.

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7706842 ... 6656?hl=en
It seems that Florida was (and probably still is) a big fan of diagonal span wires for many years...
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7049759 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7765315 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7840214 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7921501 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.9501765 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.1126192 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4429542 ... authuser=0

Re: Google Street View

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:27 pm
by cabman701
freebrickproductions wrote:
cabman701 wrote:
ZachL wrote:I guess that's just not common where you are. A lot of signals in Florida are configured like that where the signals facing towards their proper side of the road are on the closer side to the driver.
Yes... I know exactly what you mean. This intersection below comes to mind. You pull up to the line at a red light and the signals are practically over your hood. You have to lean forward and look up to watch for the signal to change.

I understand them not wanting to use as many cantilevers (I guess for ease of installation)... but in some cases it's a bit ridiculous.

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7706842 ... 6656?hl=en
It seems that Florida was (and probably still is) a big fan of diagonal span wires for many years...
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7049759 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7765315 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7840214 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7921501 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.9501765 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.1126192 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4429542 ... authuser=0
Oh yes... they are all over here. I particularly like this one... X marks the spot!
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8392659 ... 6656?hl=en

Slowly but surely, the span wire signals are being replaced by more traditional cantilevers though. Here are a couple of intersections caught when they were in the middle of the process:

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7922617 ... 6656?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7918162 ... 6656?hl=en

Re: Google Street View

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:30 pm
by ZachL
cabman701 wrote:
freebrickproductions wrote:
cabman701 wrote:
ZachL wrote:I guess that's just not common where you are. A lot of signals in Florida are configured like that where the signals facing towards their proper side of the road are on the closer side to the driver.
Yes... I know exactly what you mean. This intersection below comes to mind. You pull up to the line at a red light and the signals are practically over your hood. You have to lean forward and look up to watch for the signal to change.

I understand them not wanting to use as many cantilevers (I guess for ease of installation)... but in some cases it's a bit ridiculous.

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7706842 ... 6656?hl=en
It seems that Florida was (and probably still is) a big fan of diagonal span wires for many years...
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7049759 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7765315 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7840214 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7921501 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.9501765 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.1126192 ... authuser=0
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4429542 ... authuser=0
Oh yes... they are all over here. I particularly like this one... X marks the spot!
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8392659 ... 6656?hl=en

Slowly but surely, the span wire signals are being replaced by more traditional cantilevers though. Here are a couple of intersections caught when they were in the middle of the process:

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7922617 ... 6656?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7918162 ... 6656?hl=en
Meanwhile in Hillsborough County, new span wires are popping up! The trend now is to square them in, though.

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.0512663 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.0544895 ... 312!8i6656

If you notice, it's also a thing to have lights face both sides on one stretch of wire along the lower-level crossroad:
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.0548078 ... 312!8i6656

Re: Google Street View

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:56 am
by cabman701
It's really odd how they pick and choose what intersection gets what. I would assume the span wire is a cheaper and easier install, so I guess it just boils down to economics and such.

Re: Google Street View

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:20 pm
by freebrickproductions
cabman701 wrote:It's really odd how they pick and choose what intersection gets what. I would assume the span wire is a cheaper and easier install, so I guess it just boils down to economics and such.
It also depends on the district/municipality.

Re: Google Street View

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:18 pm
by ZachL
freebrickproductions wrote:
cabman701 wrote:It's really odd how they pick and choose what intersection gets what. I would assume the span wire is a cheaper and easier install, so I guess it just boils down to economics and such.
It also depends on the district/municipality.
Not here at least! I'd say it really is 50/50 between spanwire and poles going up here.

Re: Google Street View

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:59 pm
by ToledoRailfan
I wonder why they installed traffic signals here, kind of odd that they didn't do it on the other side of the crossing, I can't image that these are preemption for the traffic intersection after the crossing.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3192685 ... 6656?hl=en