NSsignal, while you got
some of the info in your post correct, a fair amount of it was wrong.
NSsignal wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:40 am
Siemens basically rebranded the Safetran type two to the NEG E Bell.
No. NEG is not, and has never been, part of Safetran/Siemens. Siemens
sold the design off to National Electric Gate in the 2010s, with NEG having been a distributor of the bells in question for a long time. NEG is primarily a supplier of railroad crossing equipment based out of Pooler, GA (with their headquarters just down the road from the GC Savannah Subdivision).
NSsignal wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:40 am
Now there is pretty concrete evidence that Raco is part of safetran. The raco gate mech and the safetran gate mechs and the Invensys rail S40s and the Siemens S60s all use that same box shame mech. Even the new Siemens S80.
RACO became Safetran in 1971. Also, the S80 uses a different case design, as it is noticeably shorter than the other S-series gate mechs. The very early Safetran S-series gate mechs, like the ones at
Fleming Road in Montgomery, were just the old
RACO S-series gate mechs with the branding changed.
NSsignal wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:40 am
I can’t remember if Wabco is part of Safetran but anyway NEG is part of Safetran. Hence why they now have Identical gate lights to the safetran/RACO ones.
WABCO was never part of Safetran.
The Westinghouse Air Brake Company (WABCO) was its own company, and had been from 1869 until 1968 when American Standard took them over. In 1917, WABCO took-over Union Switch & Signal (US&S), which was operated fairly independently, until 1968 when American Standard reorganized US&S as a division of WABCO, hence why the WABCO 8 inch lights all kept US&S branding on them around the edge. As a side note, both WABCO and US&S were started by George Westinghouse.
Again, NEG has never been part of Safetran.
NSsignal wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:40 am
Finally the reason why the 1970s style safetran/raco cantilever is called that is because it was continued on by safetran.
Correct. I believe the design would've been discontinued in the 1980s or 1990s by Safetran. Originally it was made by Griswold.
NSsignal wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:40 am
The raco mechanical bell looks a lot like the safetran mechanical bell which leads me to believe that Griswold merged with RACO as the bell is called a RACO/Griswold M bell. Also explains the raco EM gate being identical to the Griswold gate.
RACO was the resulting company of the merger between Griswold and Transport Products Corp in 1963. Some products, like the bells and EMs, were originally Griswold products. In fact, the RACO bells still retain faint marks where the Griswold branding can still be seen, as RACO didn't completely remove the Griswold branding from the molds. The S-series gate mechs were a continuation of the
S-series gate mechs offered by Transport Products Corp.
Safetran would also continue these lines on, the very earliest Safetran bells were RACO ones that had the internal branding changed. Safetran would base both generations of their mechanical bell on the RACO (and Griswold) bell until the 2nd Gens were discontinued in the early to mid-2000s. The EMs would be made until at least the 1990s or early 2000s, and, of course, the S-series of gate mechanisms are still being made today as the S40, S60, and S80.
NSsignal wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:40 am
nock off
*knock-off
