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Re: Crossings protected by traffic signals.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:00 pm
by ToledoRailfan
Springfield, Pennsylvania.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9153002 ... 6656?hl=en
Back in 2007 this crossing had normal crossing signals! Here is an active view of them. Kind of an odd setup.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.915265, ... 1664?hl=en
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Media, Pennsylvania.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9148351 ... 6656?hl=en
Back in 2007 this crossing also use to have normal railroad signals.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9148491 ... 1664?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9160403 ... 6656?hl=en
This crossing also had normal signals in 2007. It also had 7" gate lights!
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9161093 ... 1664?hl=en
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Kind of interesting that those crossings had normal crossing equipment instead of 4-way clusters like other signalized crossings (except for that one with crossing signals that had red traffic signal lights) on the Philadelphia Septa Streetcar system. There is however this crossing in Springfield which for some reason was not upgrade to traffic signals.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9212965 ... 6656?hl=en
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Here is another crossing in Springfield. I wonder what is up with that mast that the crossbuck is on? Looks like a third cantilever mast but without the arm.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9244908 ... 6656?hl=en
The crossbuck on the other side of the crossing is also on a weird mast.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9248033 ... 6656?hl=en

Here is the crossing back in 2007. This crossing has a different history from the others and a kind of weird one at that. This crossing had normal GYR signals (like the vast majority of crossings on the system today) but it also had weird extra lights. My theory behind this setup is that the signals facing away from the intersection near the crossing functioned as preemption signals while the signals on the other side of the crossing (3M signals!) functioned the same as any other RYG signal would that protects a crossing (just like the other crossings on the system today) while the weird extra lights acted like crossing signals by activating when there was a train.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9244296 ... 1664?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9246628 ... 1664?hl=en

However those signals were replaced by normal railroad crossing signals! Along with a new pair of traffic signals on one side to function as preemption signals.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9244232 ... 1664?hl=en
The other cantilever signal looked pretty odd though.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9246192 ... 1664?hl=en

But of coarse that crossing was upgrade again to it's current state. Pretty odd!

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.926076, ... 6656?hl=en
This crossing also had normal crossing signals back in 2007... This clearly was the standard for crossings on this part of the system. I wonder why it was different?
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9260903 ... 1664?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9288644 ... 6656?hl=en
Guess...
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9288572 ... 1664?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.934189, ... 6656?hl=en
This crossing had some traffic signals for each side along with the normal railroad crossing signals.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9341793 ... 1664?hl=en
And by had... I mean still there!
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9343089 ... 6656?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9344432 ... 6656?hl=en
There was also this very interesting vintage signal for the streetcars!
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9342261 ... 1664?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9341793 ... 1664?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9407574 ... 6656?hl=en
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Upper Darby, Pennsylvania.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9472855 ... 6656?hl=en

Re: Crossings protected by traffic signals.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:13 am
by ToledoRailfan

Re: Crossings protected by traffic signals.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:47 pm
by ZachL
ToledoRailfan wrote:Madison, Indiana.
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7616757 ... 6656?hl=en
Technically not a traffic signal though, but just a flashing red beacon

Re: Crossings protected by traffic signals.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:05 pm
by ToledoRailfan
ZachL wrote:
ToledoRailfan wrote:Madison, Indiana.
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7616757 ... 6656?hl=en
Technically not a traffic signal though, but just a flashing red beacon
Really depends on what you consider a traffic signal. I don't think its necessary to not post them in this thread rearguards of whether they flash continuously or act as a crossing signal (which it appears this one does, whether or not it still works is a different story).

Re: Crossings protected by traffic signals.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:09 pm
by MapsSurfer
This Crossing on a FEC Spur Line is protected by really old-school traffic signals. https://www.google.com/maps/@25.8406124 ... 312!8i6656 I would really like to know the make of these signals, if anyone has any info on them please let me know! :Smile:

Re: Crossings protected by traffic signals.

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:18 pm
by freebrickproductions
MapsSurfer wrote:This Crossing on a FEC Spur Line is protected by really old-school traffic signals. https://www.google.com/maps/@25.8406124 ... 312!8i6656 I would really like to know the make of these signals, if anyone has any info on them please let me know! :Smile:
Those are 12 inch Winkomatic signals.

Re: Crossings protected by traffic signals.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:59 pm
by ZachL
MapsSurfer wrote:This Crossing on a FEC Spur Line is protected by really old-school traffic signals. https://www.google.com/maps/@25.8406124 ... 312!8i6656 I would really like to know the make of these signals, if anyone has any info on them please let me know! :Smile:
TBH, they aren't that old. Maybe from the 1980s at earliest.

Re: Crossings protected by traffic signals.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 12:55 am
by freebrickproductions
ZachL wrote:
MapsSurfer wrote:This Crossing on a FEC Spur Line is protected by really old-school traffic signals. https://www.google.com/maps/@25.8406124 ... 312!8i6656 I would really like to know the make of these signals, if anyone has any info on them please let me know! :Smile:
TBH, they aren't that old. Maybe from the 1980s at earliest.
Not sure when Winkomatic started producing their traffic lights, could be from the 1970s, but no newer than the 80s most likely. ICC actually bought the molds from Winkomatic later on and started producing them with ICC badging on the back, before modifying it a bit later on in the 1990s, so those could be ICCs from the early 90s quite possibly.

Re: Crossings protected by traffic signals.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 6:01 pm
by MapsSurfer
freebrickproductions wrote:
ZachL wrote:
MapsSurfer wrote:This Crossing on a FEC Spur Line is protected by really old-school traffic signals. https://www.google.com/maps/@25.8406124 ... 312!8i6656 I would really like to know the make of these signals, if anyone has any info on them please let me know! :Smile:
TBH, they aren't that old. Maybe from the 1980s at earliest.
Not sure when Winkomatic started producing their traffic lights, could be from the 1970s, but no newer than the 80s most likely. ICC actually bought the molds from Winkomatic later on and started producing them with ICC badging on the back, before modifying it a bit later on in the 1990s, so those could be ICCs from the early 90s quite possibly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Very Interesting, I've always wanted to learn more about Traffic Signs and Signals.

Re: Crossings protected by traffic signals.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:29 pm
by ZachL
MapsSurfer wrote:
freebrickproductions wrote:
ZachL wrote:
MapsSurfer wrote:This Crossing on a FEC Spur Line is protected by really old-school traffic signals. https://www.google.com/maps/@25.8406124 ... 312!8i6656 I would really like to know the make of these signals, if anyone has any info on them please let me know! :Smile:
TBH, they aren't that old. Maybe from the 1980s at earliest.
Not sure when Winkomatic started producing their traffic lights, could be from the 1970s, but no newer than the 80s most likely. ICC actually bought the molds from Winkomatic later on and started producing them with ICC badging on the back, before modifying it a bit later on in the 1990s, so those could be ICCs from the early 90s quite possibly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Very Interesting, I've always wanted to learn more about Traffic Signs and Signals.
Well for starters, traffic signals in Florida used to be yellow until about the 1970s or so.