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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:44 am
by TrickyMario7654
Found this really old wooden crossbuck near Lithgow, NSW.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.465 ... 312!8i6656

I'm willing to bet it's the same one seen in this 1992 picture, even though it says "A subsequent trip has shown that the sign has been removed. One wonders if it was preserved or destroyed?"
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Also found this crossing at Ben Bullen which had a Teardrop bell replaced by a hybrid bell!
2008: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.219 ... 328!8i1664
2015: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.219 ... 312!8i6656

:LOL3:
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-32.913 ... 312!8i6656

Here's a signal on display at Leumeah station. I believe there used to be a crossing here at one point.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.050 ... 312!8i6656

Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:29 am
by Username1
Sooo I found this website called 'The wayback machine' which essentially allows you to visit websites which have shut down. Well I decided to look up Westinghouse Rail and....

I FOUND THE ENTIRE WEBSITE COMPLETE WITH EVERYTHING!!!!
Sorry for caps :Laugh:

Here's the Westinghouse website: https://web.archive.org/web/20080721034 ... llapse=2.4

Here's the Westinghouse hybrid bell:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080722120 ... 209D-2.PDF

Well looks like I'm gonna be busy for the next couple of days or so!!

Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:42 pm
by LARDLOGO
Username1 wrote:Sooo I found this website called 'The wayback machine' which essentially allows you to visit websites which have shut down. Well I decided to look up Westinghouse Rail and....

I FOUND THE ENTIRE WEBSITE COMPLETE WITH EVERYTHING!!!!
Sorry for caps :Laugh:

Here's the Westinghouse website: https://web.archive.org/web/20080721034 ... llapse=2.4

Here's the Westinghouse hybrid bell:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080722120 ... 209D-2.PDF

Well looks like I'm gonna be busy for the next couple of days or so!!
Yep, Wayback Machine is very useful. Nice find!

Hybrid bell always reminded myself of fire alarm bells, personally.

Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:53 am
by Username1
Sorry if it's been posted before, but are these Safetran type 2 E-bells at Mooroolbark station? (Skip to 0:44)
https://youtu.be/DUDJNtVBCIw

Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:52 am
by chris96
Username1 wrote:Sorry if it's been posted before, but are these Safetran type 2 E-bells at Mooroolbark station? (Skip to 0:44)
https://youtu.be/DUDJNtVBCIw

No, those are General Signals type 2's like most crossings in Melbourne.

I did notice something interesting in the 2009 street view image. Somebody decorated one of the gates with Christmas tinsel!
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.784 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.784 ... 312!8i6656

Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:34 pm
by TrickyMario7654
TrickyMario7654 wrote:
chris96 wrote:Apparently, this line is now back in service. But considering the fact that the re-installation of lights to the left of the crossing would have been necessary, I (unfortunately) think it's safe to assume that the whole crossing got a "touch-up" and the WABCO bell is now history.
I never noticed that! But yeah, there's probably a good chance they trashed the crossing. :TDOWN: :TDOWN: :TDOWN:
Hopefully they didn't remove the Teardrop bells on the rest of the line.
Actually scratch that, because I found this.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-36.440 ... 800!8i3978

Sadly, I think they removed all the other m-bells along the line (including the Teardrop bells). :Curse1: :TDOWN:
McK&H.Aust wrote:I don't mean to add insult to injury, but those gate mechs look like they could have been McK&H. It was a really nice crossing and of course they had to ruin it. Finding crossings with 2 teardrop bells these days is as rare as hens teeth, but old gate mechs as well is even rarer. The thumbs down is not strong enough :Curse1:
Looks like they were McK&H. You can make out the same manufacturer's plate if you zoom in on the gate mech closest to this image.
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I've really had it with these stupid Victorian bell nazis butchering all the level crossings! :Mad:

Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:09 pm
by McK&H.Aust
TrickyMario7654 wrote:Also found this crossing at Ben Bullen which had a Teardrop bell replaced by a hybrid bell!
2008: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.219 ... 328!8i1664
2015: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.219 ... 312!8i6656
Not sure what happened to GSV but previously there was an image from 2010 with a good close-up view of the teardrop bell. GSV has been real messed up lately. Also the teardrop bell has been rotated 90 degrees from it's previous position, the gong used to face approaching road traffic.
Those new gated signals only saw action for a few years. The line is now out of service and is occasionally re-opened for heritage trains.
TrickyMario7654 wrote:Here's a signal on display at Leumeah station. I believe there used to be a crossing here at one point.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.050 ... 312!8i6656
I remember the crossing at Leumeah quite well, it closed in the mid 1990's and was replaced by an overpass further to the north.
The crossing was located on Old Leumeah Rd which continued across the line at the northern end of the station (it was just called Leumeah Rd back then IIRC). That surviving signal actually isn't too far from it's original position, it was located on the north-east quadrant of the crossing and faced towards the south, most likely to protect traffic entering from O'Sullivan Rd. The crossing had WRRS/GRS Type B gate mechs and McK&H lights, pretty sure the crossing had a hybrid bell on one side and a WRRS or WCH bell on the other side. The pedestrian crossing had GRS semaphore gate mechs.

Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:17 pm
by TrickyMario7654
McK&H.Aust wrote:
TrickyMario7654 wrote:Also found this crossing at Ben Bullen which had a Teardrop bell replaced by a hybrid bell!
2008: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.219 ... 328!8i1664
2015: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.219 ... 312!8i6656
Not sure what happened to GSV but previously there was an image from 2010 with a good close-up view of the teardrop bell. GSV has been real messed up lately. Also the teardrop bell has been rotated 90 degrees from it's previous position, the gong used to face approaching road traffic.
Just found the 2010 image. You just need to fidget around a bit to get to it.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.219 ... 312!8i6656
McK&H.Aust wrote:
TrickyMario7654 wrote:Here's a signal on display at Leumeah station. I believe there used to be a crossing here at one point.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.050 ... 312!8i6656
I remember the crossing at Leumeah quite well, it closed in the mid 1990's and was replaced by an overpass further to the north.
The crossing was located on Old Leumeah Rd which continued across the line at the northern end of the station (it was just called Leumeah Rd back then IIRC). That surviving signal actually isn't too far from it's original position, it was located on the north-east quadrant of the crossing and faced towards the south, most likely to protect traffic entering from O'Sullivan Rd. The crossing had WRRS/GRS Type B gate mechs and McK&H lights, pretty sure the crossing had a hybrid bell on one side and a WRRS or WCH bell on the other side. The pedestrian crossing had GRS semaphore gate mechs.
I actually saw a news report which had the crossing in it, hence how I found out about it. I'll post the video it was in later, but I do remember it having the same equipment you've mentioned.

I wonder why they chose to keep that gateless signal after they removed the crossing?

Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:35 pm
by McK&H.Aust
Username1 wrote:Sooo I found this website called 'The wayback machine' which essentially allows you to visit websites which have shut down. Well I decided to look up Westinghouse Rail and....

I FOUND THE ENTIRE WEBSITE COMPLETE WITH EVERYTHING!!!!
Sorry for caps :Laugh:

Here's the Westinghouse website: https://web.archive.org/web/20080721034 ... llapse=2.4

Here's the Westinghouse hybrid bell:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080722120 ... 209D-2.PDF

Well looks like I'm gonna be busy for the next couple of days or so!!
Great find there, specially the page about the Westinghouse hybrid bell. Interesting that they stuck with the same brochure from 1983!

Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:47 pm
by McK&H.Aust
TrickyMario7654 wrote:I've really had it with these stupid Victorian bell nazis butchering all the level crossings! :Mad:
It's very frustrating and saddening and it's not just VIC but pretty much all of Australia. We are basically down to 2 kinds of bell (Safetran type 3 or WCH e-bells), plus General Signals e-bells in Melbourne.

Most new Australian installations are very predictable, with only 2 kinds of gate mechs (Safetran or WCH) and 2 kinds of lights (Westinghouse or United Group). Gone are the days of having an interesting variety of equipment on our crossings :Awww:

Here is another classic crossing about to be butchered on August 7, this time the Old Hume Hwy at Glenrowan which is having gates installed
https://extranet.artc.com.au/docman/Doc ... 2114453485

It's a shame that the teardrop bell was replaced, but at least they used a hybrid.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-36.469 ... 312!8i6656