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Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:23 am**

ToledoRailfan wrote:I thought this was quite interesting even though it is not for a level crossing. This bascule bridge in Birkenhead uses level crossing signals.
posting.php?mode=reply&f=13&t=3045 https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.837 ... 312!8i6656 https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656 https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656

Looks like the bells are Level crossing E-Bells without the outer protection.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656

There are also mechanical bells here.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656

This bridge uses Western-Cullen Hayes mechanical bells.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.842 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.842 ... 312!8i6656

This bridge also uses semaphores for waterway traffic, I thought that was pretty interesting.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.841 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.842 ... 312!8i6656

They've also got level crossing-like signals at the entrances to the Domain and Burnley tunnels which activate when there's an emergency inside the tunnel.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.826 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.826 ... 312!8i6656

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:44 am**

ToledoRailfan wrote:I thought this was quite interesting even though it is not for a level crossing. This bascule bridge in Birkenhead uses level crossing signals.
posting.php?mode=reply&f=13&t=3045 https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.837 ... 312!8i6656 https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656 https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656

Looks like the bells are Level crossing E-Bells without the outer protection.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656

There are also mechanical bells here.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656

This bridge uses Western-Cullen Hayes mechanical bells.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.842 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.842 ... 312!8i6656

This bridge also uses semaphores for waterway traffic, I thought that was pretty interesting.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.841 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.842 ... 312!8i6656

You might want to check your first link.

Also, are you sure that those are "e-bells" and not some antenna of some kind?

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:35 am**

freebrickproductions wrote:
Also, are you sure that those are "e-bells" and not some antenna of some kind?

That's a standard traffic light cap (used to protect the internal wiring from the elements), used at most regular intersections. It's not an E-Bell. Here's an example at Werribee:
https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/We ... !4d144.664

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:54 am**

TrickyMario7654 wrote:Ok, Here's a list of crossings in Metropolitan Melbourne I know off that still have mechanical bells. I would like to know if anymore had them or if any of them have had E-Bells installed (Chris96, you might be able to help me with this...)

Station Street, Fairfield (Westinghouse Hybrid)
Main Street, Pakenham (Westinghouse Hybrid)
Racecourse Road, Pakenham (Westinghouse Hybrid)
Eel Race Road, Seaford (Westinghouse Hybrid, on Government's LX-ing removal list)
Syke/Overton Road, Frankston (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Glenferrie Road, Kooyong (Westinghouse Hybrid, tramsquare)
Buckley Street, Essendon (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
High Street, Reservoir (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Keon Parade, Reservoir (Westinghouse Hybrid)
Cherry Street, Werribee (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Toorak Road, Kooyong (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Marshall Street, Ivanhoe (Westinghouse Hybrid & McK&H Teardrop bell)
Ruthven Street, Macleod (Westinghouse Hybrid)
Poplar Road, Parkville (Westinghouse Hybrid)
Macaulay Road, Kensington (Westinghouse Hybrid, Upfield Line)
Bell Street, Coburg (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Station Street, Officer (Westinghouse Hybrid)
Brunt Road, Officer (Westinghouse Hybrid)
Hallam South Road, Hallam (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
South Gippsland Highway, Dandenong (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Abbotts Road, South Dandenong (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Chandler Road, Noble Park (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Corrigan Road, Noble Park (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Centre Road, Clayton (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Clayton Road, Clayton (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Grange Road, Caulfield (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list, an Mk&H Teardrop bell was previously on one side of the crossing, but was replaced with a Westinghouse Hybrid sometime after June 2013)
Mountain Highway, Bayswater (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Main Road, St Albans (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Glenroy Road, Glenroy (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Boundary Road, Hadfield (Westinghouse Hybrid)
Camp Road, Campbellfield (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)
Aviation Rd, Laverton (Westinghouse Hybrid, on LX-ing removal list)

That's a great list!

I believe most of these bells still exist today (except one of the Westinghouse Hybrids at Poplar Road, Parkville is dead and the other is beginning to play up).

There's also some Westinghouse Hybrid Bells at Maidstone Street, Altona (the last crossing in the video on page 1) :
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.864 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.865 ... 312!8i6656

And at Kororoit Creek Rd, Williamstown (on on LX-ing removal list):
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.852 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.852 ... 312!8i6656

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:10 am**

ToledoRailfan wrote:I thought this was quite interesting even though it is not for a level crossing. This bascule bridge in Birkenhead uses level crossing signals.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.837 ... 312!8i6656 https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656 https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656

Those barrier gates reminds me of the ones that are (or used to be) in Wisconsin. viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2802&p=18778&hilit ... tes#p18591

That 2nd set of gates on the bridge appear to interlock with each other. Would be interested to see how that works.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.838 ... 312!8i6656

Posted: **Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:19 pm**

chris96 wrote: That's a great list! I believe most of these bells still exist today (except one of the Westinghouse Hybrids at Poplar Road, Parkville is dead and the other is beginning to play up).

There's also some Westinghouse Hybrid Bells at Maidstone Street, Altona (the last crossing in the video on page 1) :
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.864 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.865 ... 312!8i6656

And at Kororoit Creek Rd, Williamstown (on on LX-ing removal list):
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.852 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.852 ... 312!8i6656

Thanks for the additions, have you noticed that most of the crossings on the list I made are on the removal list? The recently grade separated crossings at North Road in Ormond and Centre Road in Bentleigh had Westinghouse bells too, not to mention the Burke Road tramsquare crossing in Glen Iris also had them too.
What I think of crossing removals in general: https://youtu.be/kJGDN3_LyQE?t=86

Speaking of Poplar Road, here's a video of the crossing in the early 90's with McK&H Teardrop bells, black striped barriers, and green MET Comeng trains passing through it

: https://youtu.be/lfo2297mE7E?t=20
Also included is the old Spencers Street station, the Riverside tramway crossing, a lot of Melbourne trams, and a ride on the now retired Hitachi trains.

Posted: **Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:45 am**

Found this photo of the Main Street crossing in Pakenham from possibly the 40's or 50's. Take a look at the crossbuck! The letters are all thick and bold. I've never seen anything like it before!
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VlLvFiQwrOU/ ... kenham.jpg

Posted: **Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:17 am**

TrickyMario7654 wrote:Found this photo of the Main Street crossing in Pakenham from possibly the 40's or 50's. Take a look at the crossbuck! The letters are all thick and bold. I've never seen anything like it before!
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VlLvFiQwrOU/ ... kenham.jpg

Posted: **Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:24 pm**

chris96 wrote: The same thing happened at Upfield.
2009:
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.666 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.666 ... 312!8i6656
2014:
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.666 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.666 ... 312!8i6656

I don't see that point of that.

Pretty unusual, this is at the same crossing, but I've never seen this before.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.666 ... 312!8i6656

Posted: **Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:31 pm**

chris96 wrote:Something you don't see often, an E-Bell replacing an E-Bell. In 2007 this crossing in Geelong had a set of Barker Technics E-Bells, but by 2015 they've been replaced by Safetran (Siemens) Type 3 E-Bells.
2007:
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.151 ... 328!8i1664
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.151 ... 328!8i1664
2015:
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.151 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.151 ... 312!8i6656

The same thing happened at Upfield.
2009:
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.666 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.666 ... 312!8i6656
2014:
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.666 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.666 ... 312!8i6656

I don't see that point of that.

Usually it's done when an e-bell dies.

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