Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

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Re: Australian Railroad Crossing Signals

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McK&H.Aust wrote:I guess it depends on the design of the new intersection with the Murray Valley Hwy, but the crossing is probably a goner either way. If they install a roundabout it will have to be very large to cope with the big trucks, so it will certainly require a reconfiguration of the crossing (and new signals, most likely gates). If they install traffic lights, the longer trucks won't be clear of the tracks if they are stopped at the new intersection, so they will probably install new gated signals at the crossing with the traffic lights stopping vehicles before the crossing.

It's quite sad, not just for the crossing but also for the railway station, turntable and steam locomotive water tank which all seem to be in the path of the new road, also maybe the silos behind the station.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-36.017 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-36.017 ... 312!8i6656

They probably chose that route because it will mostly use railway land, so no need for expensive property acquisitions and the associated political fallout. I guess heritage doesn't matter when you want a fancy new road.

The Westinghouse teardrop bell on the Shone Ave crossing at Wongawilli is also on borrowed time (in more ways than one).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-34.479 ... 312!8i6656

There are plans to widen the road, install gates and also new pedestrian/cycle path crossings. The draft plan is a fairly large file but is interesting reading (also has a picture of the crossing on the cover). Some interesting pictures and information about the crossing begins on page 322. There are also pictures and information about the other crossings on the line starting on page 364.
http://www.haveyoursaywollongong.com.au ... ents/17754

Wollongong Coal are the owners of the Wongawilli mine and also the railway line. They have run into quite a bit of strife on several fronts, production at the mine was stopped in late May 2017 and hasn't resumed. Trains are no longer operating.

Basically the mine owner's problems are......
They owe money to the government who are taking legal action to recover it.
http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/stor ... -pay-rent/

They owe money to the contractor who was operating the mine for them (they have since gone bankrupt). http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/stor ... unk-delta/

They are being investigated by the government to determine if they are "fit and proper" to hold a mining licence.
http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/stor ... g-licence/

Obviously if you are a mining company and can't afford to pay your rent to the government, you are in serious financial trouble. Unless another company is willing to buy the mine, there is a good chance that it will not re-open.
I totally forgot about the station potentially being in the way. :Roll:

The Andrews Government doesn't seem to care about railway heritage. Last year, the LXRA knocked down the station buildings at Carnegie and Murrumbeena, causing mass controversy among residents. From what I've heard, they're don't have a heritage protection, but its still sad though. :Sad:
https://twitter.com/NoSkyrail/status/770490917883109376

They also cut down a 250 year old river red gum tree at Hughesdale earlier this year, despite mass protests against it.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/inne ... e90fc1be5e

I swear, Daniel Andrews and Jacinta Allan even admits to hating vintage crossing equipment. Because they're upgrading most of the gateless crossings along the North East line and they're calling the crossings up for removal "relics of the past".

Sad to hear that the crossing at Wongwilli is on death row, but even then the mining company is in hot water so it doesn't matter.
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Thought I would post all the locations of suburban Safetran m-bells in Melbourne that appear on Google Street View. As known already, all of these have sadly since been replaced.

Union Street, Windsor (Safetran + Hybrid) (This was among the last two still in service in Melbourne, and were replaced around August 2016).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.854 ... 312!8i6656

Glen Eira Road, Ripponlea (Safetran x2, later Safetran + Hybrid) (This was the other crossing which had one of the last two Safetran bells still in service. There was another one at this crossing back in 2007/08 but it was later replaced with a hybrid bell in around 2009).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.876 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.876 ... 328!8i1664

Bay Street, Brighton (Safetran + Teardrop)
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.905 ... 312!8i6656

Dendy & New Street, Brighton (Safetran + Teardrop) (As mentioned earlier, this was the last crossing in Melbourne to have the Teardrop & Safetran combo, lasting until April 2013).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.919 ... 312!8i6656

Abbott Street, Sandringham (Safetran + Teardrop) (This Safetran bell had been replaced with a hybrid bell by March 2011, but the Teardrop manage to survive until at least 2013/14 when it was replaced by an e-bell)
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.948 ... 312!8i6656

Seaford Road, Seaford (Safetran? + Hybrid) (This one's debatable. Reason being that the Street View image is really grainy and they didn't actually cross the tracks, thus preventing a good view of the bell. Either way, it was replaced with a hybrid bell by 2009. But in January 2016, Metro decided to be complete idiots and install e-bells on the crossing, even though it's up for removal!).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.110 ... 328!8i1664

Disney Street, Crib Point (Safetran) (This gateless crossing on the non-electrified Stony Point line had a Safetran bell up until March 2011, when the crossing was upgraded with gates).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.353 ... 312!8i6656

Koornang Road, Carnegie (Safetran + Teardrop).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.885 ... 6656?hl=en

Murrumbeena Road, Murrumbeena (Safetran x2) (This one's pretty well known and has been mentioned several times in the past).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.889 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.889 ... 312!8i6656

Poath Road, Hughesdale (Safetran + Teardrop) (The Safetran bell was replaced with a hybrid bell by July 2011, but both bells were replaced with e-bells in 2012).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.894 ... 312!8i6656

Springvale Road, Springvale (Safetran x2 + Hybrid, later Safetan + Hybrid x2). (This one's interesting as in 2007, the bells on the shoulder signals were from Safetran while the one in the median was a hybrid bell although it didn't appear to ring judging by videos of the crossing. By November 2009, one of them had been replaced with a hybrid bell! The other Safetran bell was also replaced with another hybrid in 2011, according to YouTube).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.949 ... 328!8i1664
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.948 ... 312!8i6656

Madden Grove, Burnley (Safetran + Hybrid).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.827 ... 312!8i6656

Prospect Hill Road, Camberwell (Safetran + Hybrid) (I believe this crossing had it's original signals replaced in the 1990's and both bells were reused from the old signals).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.829 ... 312!8i6656

Springvale Road, Nunawading (Safetran + Hybrid) (The Safetran bell was replaced with a hybrid bell by October 2008).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.820 ... 328!8i1664

Rooks Road, Mitcham (Safetran + Hybrid) (The Safetran bell was replaced with a hybrid bell in 2009).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.818 ... 328!8i1664

Mitcham Road, Mitcham (Safetran + Hybrid) (Some idiot at Metro thought it was a good idea to replace both bells with e-bells a few months prior to the crossing's removal in January 2014).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.817 ... 312!8i6656

Dublin Road, Ringwood East (Safetran + Hybrid).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.812 ... 312!8i6656

Mountain Highway, Bayswater (Safetran + Hybrid) (This one was replaced with a hybrid bell by November 2009).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.840 ... 328!8i1664

Alpine Street, Ferntree Gully (Safetran + Hybrid).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.882 ... 312!8i6656

Station Street, Fairfield (Safetran + Teardrop).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.779 ... 312!8i6656

Grange Road, Alphington (Safetran + Teardrop). (The Teardrop bell signal also had a black & white gate at the time).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.779 ... 328!8i1664

Yarralea Street, Alphington (Safetran + Teardrop).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.777 ... 328!8i1664

Arthurton Road, Northcote (Safetran + Hybrid) (This one replaced a hybrid bell sometime between 2007-2009, although freebricksproductions has suggested that it may be a Grisworld or RACO bell).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.768 ... 312!8i6656

Cramer Street, Preston (Safetran + Teardrop).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.740 ... 328!8i1664

Regent Street, Reservoir (Safetran + Teardrop).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.730 ... 328!8i1664

Manns Crossing, Lalor (Safetran + Teardrop) (I suspect that this one was replaced when they added the second track in 2011).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.672 ... 312!8i6656

Paschke Crescent, Lalor (Safetran x2) (Like Manns Crossing, these bells would of been replaced when the second track was added).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.666 ... 328!8i1664
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.666 ... 328!8i1664

Of course, these aren't all the Safetran bells ever installed on the suburban network. There would of been many others that had been replaced before Street View even existed.
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Arthurton Road in Northcote definitely ain't Safetran. The base is much too different for it to be a Safetran. Like I said, it's most likely RACO or Griswold.
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TrickyMario7654 wrote:Thought I would post all the locations of suburban Safetran m-bells in Melbourne that appear on Google Street View. As known already, all of these have sadly since been replaced.

Union Street, Windsor (Safetran + Hybrid) (This was among the last two still in service in Melbourne, and were replaced around August 2016).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.854 ... 312!8i6656

Glen Eira Road, Ripponlea (Safetran x2, later Safetran + Hybrid) (This was the other crossing which had one of the last two Safetran bells still in service. There was another one at this crossing back in 2007/08 but it was later replaced with a hybrid bell in around 2009).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.876 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.876 ... 328!8i1664

Bay Street, Brighton (Safetran + Teardrop)
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.905 ... 312!8i6656

Dendy & New Street, Brighton (Safetran + Teardrop) (As mentioned earlier, this was the last crossing in Melbourne to have the Teardrop & Safetran combo, lasting until April 2013).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.919 ... 312!8i6656

Abbott Street, Sandringham (Safetran + Teardrop) (This Safetran bell had been replaced with a hybrid bell by March 2011, but the Teardrop manage to survive until at least 2013/14 when it was replaced by an e-bell)
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.948 ... 312!8i6656

Seaford Road, Seaford (Safetran? + Hybrid) (This one's debatable. Reason being that the Street View image is really grainy and they didn't actually cross the tracks, thus preventing a good view of the bell. Either way, it was replaced with a hybrid bell by 2009. But in January 2016, Metro decided to be complete idiots and install e-bells on the crossing, even though it's up for removal!).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.110 ... 328!8i1664

Disney Street, Crib Point (Safetran) (This gateless crossing on the non-electrified Stony Point line had a Safetran bell up until March 2011, when the crossing was upgraded with gates).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.353 ... 312!8i6656

Koornang Road, Carnegie (Safetran + Teardrop).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.885 ... 6656?hl=en

Murrumbeena Road, Murrumbeena (Safetran x2) (This one's pretty well known and has been mentioned several times in the past).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.889 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.889 ... 312!8i6656

Poath Road, Hughesdale (Safetran + Teardrop) (The Safetran bell was replaced with a hybrid bell by July 2011, but both bells were replaced with e-bells in 2012).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.894 ... 312!8i6656

Springvale Road, Springvale (Safetran x2 + Hybrid, later Safetan + Hybrid x2). (This one's interesting as in 2007, the bells on the shoulder signals were from Safetran while the one in the median was a hybrid bell although it didn't appear to ring judging by videos of the crossing. By November 2009, one of them had been replaced with a hybrid bell! The other Safetran bell was also replaced with another hybrid in 2011, according to YouTube).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.949 ... 328!8i1664
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.948 ... 312!8i6656

Madden Grove, Burnley (Safetran + Hybrid).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.827 ... 312!8i6656

Prospect Hill Road, Camberwell (Safetran + Hybrid) (I believe this crossing had it's original signals replaced in the 1990's and both bells were reused from the old signals).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.829 ... 312!8i6656

Springvale Road, Nunawading (Safetran + Hybrid) (The Safetran bell was replaced with a hybrid bell by October 2008).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.820 ... 328!8i1664

Rooks Road, Mitcham (Safetran + Hybrid) (The Safetran bell was replaced with a hybrid bell in 2009).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.818 ... 328!8i1664

Mitcham Road, Mitcham (Safetran + Hybrid) (Some idiot at Metro thought it was a good idea to replace both bells with e-bells a few months prior to the crossing's removal in January 2014).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.817 ... 312!8i6656

Dublin Road, Ringwood East (Safetran + Hybrid).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.812 ... 312!8i6656

Mountain Highway, Bayswater (Safetran + Hybrid) (This one was replaced with a hybrid bell by November 2009).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.840 ... 328!8i1664

Alpine Street, Ferntree Gully (Safetran + Hybrid).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.882 ... 312!8i6656

Station Street, Fairfield (Safetran + Teardrop).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.779 ... 312!8i6656

Grange Road, Alphington (Safetran + Teardrop). (The Teardrop bell signal also had a black & white gate at the time).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.779 ... 328!8i1664

Yarralea Street, Alphington (Safetran + Teardrop).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.777 ... 328!8i1664

Arthurton Road, Northcote (Safetran + Hybrid) (This one replaced a hybrid bell sometime between 2007-2009, although freebricksproductions has suggested that it may be a Grisworld or RACO bell).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.768 ... 312!8i6656

Cramer Street, Preston (Safetran + Teardrop).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.740 ... 328!8i1664

Regent Street, Reservoir (Safetran + Teardrop).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.730 ... 328!8i1664

Manns Crossing, Lalor (Safetran + Teardrop) (I suspect that this one was replaced when they added the second track in 2011).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.672 ... 312!8i6656

Paschke Crescent, Lalor (Safetran x2) (Like Manns Crossing, these bells would of been replaced when the second track was added).
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.666 ... 328!8i1664
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-37.666 ... 328!8i1664

Of course, these aren't all the Safetran bells ever installed on the suburban network. There would of been many others that had been replaced before Street View even existed.

Thanks for posting those Safetran bells, quite a nice list indeed. I'm in hospital for a couple of days so it's nice to have something to look at on my phone.

I love the Safetran + Teardrop combo, wish there were still some left to film. So many nice bells and crossings ruined by Metro, they certainly have a lot to answer for. It's no wonder you dislike them so much, taking away so many classic bells and replacing them with adjusted GS type 1 rubbish :Curse1:
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McK&H.Aust wrote:Thanks for posting those Safetran bells, quite a nice list indeed. I'm in hospital for a couple of days so it's nice to have something to look at on my phone.

I love the Safetran + Teardrop combo, wish there were still some left to film. So many nice bells and crossings ruined by Metro, they certainly have a lot to answer for. It's no wonder you dislike them so much, taking away so many classic bells and replacing them with adjusted GS type 1 rubbish :Curse1:
Why are you in hospital?

But yeah, the bell nazis have gotten rid of every Teardrop and Safetran bell from the network. Most hybrid bells have been removed and the remaining ones are on borrowed time. No mechanical bell is safe, not even the ones on crossings up for removal.

I was hoping that Metro would be dumped by the State Government, but nope they renew their contact for another seven years just to spite us. :Curse1:
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TrickyMario7654 wrote:
McK&H.Aust wrote:Thanks for posting those Safetran bells, quite a nice list indeed. I'm in hospital for a couple of days so it's nice to have something to look at on my phone.

I love the Safetran + Teardrop combo, wish there were still some left to film. So many nice bells and crossings ruined by Metro, they certainly have a lot to answer for. It's no wonder you dislike them so much, taking away so many classic bells and replacing them with adjusted GS type 1 rubbish :Curse1:
Why are you in hospital?

But yeah, the bell nazis have gotten rid of every Teardrop and Safetran bell from the network. Most hybrid bells have been removed and the remaining ones are on borrowed time. No mechanical bell is safe, not even the ones on crossings up for removal.

I was hoping that Metro would be dumped by the State Government, but nope they renew their contact for another seven years just to spite us. :Curse1:
Maybe Daniel Andrews saw how much Metro hates m-bells and vintage crossings so decided to reward them with another contract. Probably won't take them too long to replace the remaining hybrid bells :aaargh:

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Just watching Kath &a Kim on channel 9, and it just showed a clip of the New/Dendy street crossing with the Safetran & Teardrop bell combo.
Metro, why are you so bad at maintaining your railway crossings??
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Username1 wrote:Just watching Kath &a Kim on channel 9, and it just showed a clip of the New/Dendy street crossing with the Safetran & Teardrop bell combo.
Nice find. :TUP2:

Considering the fact that they live in Narre Warren, I'm willing to be that the Webb Street level crossing was featured in one episode.

EDIT: Just watched the episode (The Mango Espadrille) on 9Now and they featured an M>Train Comeng in it! :WOOT: Although, they're actually riding a Siemens set and they just edited Comeng motor sounds onto the clip. Also, the PID reads "Welcome to Connex'!

The Safetran bell sounded really nice in the episode, but I couldn't hear the Teardrop bell.
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TrickyMario7654 wrote: Considering the fact that they live in Narre Warren, I'm willing to be that the Webb Street level crossing was featured in one episode.

EDIT: Just watched the episode (The Mango Espadrille) on 9Now and they featured an M>Train Comeng in it! :WOOT: Although, they're actually riding a Siemens set and they just edited Comeng motor sounds onto the clip. Also, the PID reads "Welcome to Connex'!

The Safetran bell sounded really nice in the episode, but I couldn't hear the Teardrop bell.
Lol that was the episode! What are the chances..! I thought that Kath lived in Patterson lakes (I have no clue where Kim lived though, I used to go past the house all the time, in fact it was up for sale last year, so me and my mum had a look. They took the fence down in the backyard and it revealed a lake right behind the house.
Metro, why are you so bad at maintaining your railway crossings??
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Username1 wrote:
TrickyMario7654 wrote: Considering the fact that they live in Narre Warren, I'm willing to be that the Webb Street level crossing was featured in one episode.

EDIT: Just watched the episode (The Mango Espadrille) on 9Now and they featured an M>Train Comeng in it! :WOOT: Although, they're actually riding a Siemens set and they just edited Comeng motor sounds onto the clip. Also, the PID reads "Welcome to Connex'!

The Safetran bell sounded really nice in the episode, but I couldn't hear the Teardrop bell.
Lol that was the episode! What are the chances..! I thought that Kath lived in Patterson lakes (I have no clue where Kim lived though, I used to go past the house all the time, in fact it was up for sale last year, so me and my mum had a look. They took the fence down in the backyard and it revealed a lake right behind the house.
Maybe it was just Kim who lived in Narre Warren (I might be wrong on that though). I remember seeing an episode which featured the inside of the Fountain Gate shopping centre located in Narre Warren.

It wasn't that hard finding the episode with the clip, I just clicked on the latest episode available and it was the episode that aired last night. Just looking at that clip, it's sad to think about all the m-bells and old crossing equipment that's been removed over the past ten or so years. Keep your eye out in case they show anymore crossings in the series.
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