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43rd Ave. & Camelback Rd. (Glendale, AZ)

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:32 pm
by Smjh1979
Accident #29 happened at this crossing earlier Today. (July 16)

Accident #28 happened 4 months ago on March 16.

A link for accident #29 can be found here: http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoe ... -abrk.html

Re: 43rd Ave. & Camelback Rd. (Glendale, AZ)

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:48 am
by Robert_Gift
Light Rail?

If train, was it blowing its horn?
Great photograph showing nothing of any value at the scene.
(Is there a reason that an online addition of the paper cannot show two photographs; one a closeup of the vehicle and other the scene?)

Re: 43rd Ave. & Camelback Rd. (Glendale, AZ)

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:44 am
by Smjh1979
It was not a light rail crossing. It was a BNSF/AZ&CA crossing.

http://www.rxrsignals.net/Arizona/60/Glendale/43/

Re: 43rd Ave. & Camelback Rd. (Glendale, AZ)

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:58 pm
by Robert_Gift
Are these collisions the result of vehicles trapped on the track(s)?
Or confusion? Usually things are made fool-proof so there should be no confusion.

In the photos, I can't see where the track is.
An aerial photo would show the layout.

They have a gate for the righturn on-ramp lane but not the through-lanes??

Re: 43rd Ave. & Camelback Rd. (Glendale, AZ)

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:18 pm
by Smjh1979
That's a very common sight in the Phoenix area. Turn ramps get gates, but the through streets don't get gates. They are gateless cantilevers, and the majority of those accidents happen due to people stopping on the tracks for a red light.

There have been numerous requests to get these crossings gated, but BNSF won't do anything about it.

Re: 43rd Ave. & Camelback Rd. (Glendale, AZ)

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:32 pm
by Robert_Gift
Smjh1979 wrote:... the majority of those accidents happen due to people stopping on the tracks for a red light.

There have been numerous requests to get these crossings gated, but BNSF won't do anything about it.
Thanks, Smjh
I don't blame BNSF.
IDIOTS who stop on the tracks and then get themselves trapped will still do so with very expensive gates present.

Do they have traffic signal preemption to give a GREEN traffic signal so vehicles ahead can proceed and allow morons to clear off the tracks?

Re: 43rd Ave. & Camelback Rd. (Glendale, AZ)

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:49 pm
by Smjh1979
I don't really know if they have pre-emption or not. They may, but I haven't really verified that. I haven't seen a train in about 3 years.