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What Type of Safetran Bell Is This? IAIS Blue Island Sub (16 Crossings)

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:00 pm
by BNSF2184
Whats the deal w/ the Safetran M bell at 13:42? Sounds more like a WCH Product to me but clearly is a Safetran.


Re: What Type of Safetran Bell Is This? IAIS Blue Island Sub (16 Crossings)

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:06 am
by KCMO Railfan
BNSF2184 wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:00 pm Whats the deal w/ the Safetran M bell at 13:42? Sounds more like a WCH Product to me but clearly is a Safetran.

Cast iron gong maybe? I know some 1st gen safetran mechanical bells had a similar sounding gong to the one in your vid.

Re: What Type of Safetran Bell Is This? IAIS Blue Island Sub (16 Crossings)

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:00 pm
by freebrickproductions
Nascar Fan007 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:06 am Cast iron gong maybe? I know some 1st gen safetran mechanical bells had a similar sounding gong to the one in your vid.
First off, there's no such thing as a "cast iron gong", as cast iron would be too brittle to work as a gong.
BNSF2184 wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:00 pm Whats the deal w/ the Safetran M bell at 13:42? Sounds more like a WCH Product to me but clearly is a Safetran.

That sounds like a 1st Generation Safetran mechanical bell, which largely used the same gongs as the older RACO/Griswold bells.

Re: What Type of Safetran Bell Is This? IAIS Blue Island Sub (16 Crossings)

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:00 pm
by BNSF2184
Interesting didnt know there were different generations of Safetran M bells.

Re: What Type of Safetran Bell Is This? IAIS Blue Island Sub (16 Crossings)

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:06 pm
by freebrickproductions
BNSF2184 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:00 pm Interesting didnt know there were different generations of Safetran M bells.
Yea. It appears the 1st Gen ones were only made for a few years from the early 1970s to about the mid/late-70s, so they aren't nearly as common as the 2nd Generation ones are.
Easiest way to tell 'em apart at a glance is that the 1st Generation ones feature a cast-on 4 inch base with three bolts (two on the back, one on the front) while the 2nd Generation ones feature a cast-on 5 inch base with only two bolts (two on the back, none on the front).