Angels On Track

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Angels On Track

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Okay, so there is this little foundation around Ohio and are trying to stop Buckeye crossings. The founder's son was killed in an accident and sued Conrail but the family ad won. so now they are trying to stop those crossings. they are putting billboard on the Highway saying "Bad Crossings kill good drivers". I will have to agree that heach crossing needs atleast lights. I also think that each crossing should have a bell. because some sidewalk crossings don't have those. Its more safe with a bell. I don't know, agree yet also disagree with this family. what do you think?
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TRF780 wrote:Okay, so there is this little foundation around Ohio and are trying to stop Buckeye crossings. The founder's son was killed in an accident and sued Conrail but the family ad won. so now they are trying to stop those crossings. they are putting billboard on the Highway saying "Bad Crossings kill good drivers". I will have to agree that heach crossing needs atleast lights. I also think that each crossing should have a bell. because some sidewalk crossings don't have those. Its more safe with a bell. I don't know, agree yet also disagree with this family. what do you think?
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Although I have not worked in the railroad industry myself... I'm with Kight on this one.

This is something we have discussed quite a few times... but it all comes back to one thing. People have "man up" and be responsible for their own actions. If it is an unprotected crossing (meaning no lights and/or gates), YOU need to make sure it is safe to cross. If you don't and something happens, then it's your own fault. Plain and simple...
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cabman701 wrote:Although I have not worked in the railroad industry myself... I'm with Kight on this one.

This is something we have discussed quite a few times... but it all comes back to one thing. People have "man up" and be responsible for their own actions. If it is an unprotected crossing (meaning no lights and/or gates), YOU need to make sure it is safe to cross. If you don't and something happens, then it's your own fault. Plain and simple...
I agree with you 100%. As a spokesperson for the HMCR once said, "If there is a crossbuck at the grade crossing, then it states that drivers need to stop and look for a train. Adding more protection (lights, bells, gates, etc.) puts more liability on the railroad if something were to happen there."
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freebrickproductions wrote:
cabman701 wrote: Adding more protection (lights, bells, gates, etc.) puts more liability on the railroad if something were to happen there."
Yup very much so.
People also lie another reason why every class one railroad and most commuter railroads are installing locomotive or "railview" cameras


Union Pacific has installed Track Image Recorders (TIRs) on every road locomotive
Heres a clip from one.
http://www.uprr.com/she/safety/attachme ... ndex.shtml
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TrainmanKight wrote: Union Pacific has installed Track Image Recorders (TIRs) on every road locomotive
Heres a clip from one.
http://www.uprr.com/she/safety/attachme ... ndex.shtml
I dont think I've seen a close encounter like that where the driver misses contact! Ever! :Eeeeek:
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ZachL wrote:
TrainmanKight wrote: Union Pacific has installed Track Image Recorders (TIRs) on every road locomotive
Heres a clip from one.
http://www.uprr.com/she/safety/attachme ... ndex.shtml
I dont think I've seen a close encounter like that where the driver misses contact! Ever! :Eeeeek:
I agree... that is incredible that there was no contact. I think the angle of the crossing might have helped a bit.
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ZachL wrote:
TrainmanKight wrote: Union Pacific has installed Track Image Recorders (TIRs) on every road locomotive
Heres a clip from one.
http://www.uprr.com/she/safety/attachme ... ndex.shtml
I dont think I've seen a close encounter like that where the driver misses contact! Ever! :Eeeeek:
Ride along with a train crew and you'll see it. Every time I've rode along someone runes a gate weather its close or not it still makes you wonder why.

One of the NS engineers I know always signs up to run the operation lifesaver officer on the train.
Back in 2005 he was running that train and nailed a semi at 45MPH, needless to say railroad safety got driven home until the truck drivers widow sued my friend, NS and NCDOT. The stupid lawyers made it seem like my friend drove the train into the truck intentionally.
NS counter sued, NCDOT added gates and lights to the crossing and my friend got stuck into a lawsuit for the next 4 years plus having to take time off because of the back injury he sustained.


Heres another few clips all shot from one run in one day.

Couple cars run the lights (no close call)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... XHo#t=689s

Car stops at FL crossing (what a surprise) 2 cars and semi dodge the gates at the next crossing (no close call)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... TWw#t=675s

Keep and eye out on the people to the left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... sCA#t=325s

And I'm sure all of you have seen this clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 3MA#t=143s
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TrainmanKight wrote:
ZachL wrote:
TrainmanKight wrote: Union Pacific has installed Track Image Recorders (TIRs) on every road locomotive
Heres a clip from one.
http://www.uprr.com/she/safety/attachme ... ndex.shtml
I dont think I've seen a close encounter like that where the driver misses contact! Ever! :Eeeeek:
Ride along with a train crew and you'll see it. Every time I've rode along someone runes a gate weather its close or not it still makes you wonder why.

One of the NS engineers I know always signs up to run the operation lifesaver officer on the train.
Back in 2005 he was running that train and nailed a semi at 45MPH, needless to say railroad safety got driven home until the truck drivers widow sued my friend, NS and NCDOT. The stupid lawyers made it seem like my friend drove the train into the truck intentionally.
NS counter sued, NCDOT added gates and lights to the crossing and my friend got stuck into a lawsuit for the next 4 years plus having to take time off because of the back injury he sustained.


Heres another few clips all shot from one run in one day.

Couple cars run the lights (no close call)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... XHo#t=689s

Car stops at FL crossing (what a surprise) 2 cars and semi dodge the gates at the next crossing (no close call)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... TWw#t=675s

Keep and eye out on the people to the left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... sCA#t=325s

And I'm sure all of you have seen this clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 3MA#t=143s
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